why are you still single - and general discussion of the dating game

[poopshoes]

Women have become way less fun to be around, besides the exponentially rising rates of obesity, mental illness, "activism", gender shit, single moms etc etc..

I feel bad for the zoomers who never experienced a normal dating life. Shit wasn't always this fucking weird gay and retarded.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

For me the dating game is really off-putting.

You know, the first dates when you have to do everything right, and please her and shower her in gifts and take her to the most expensive places and make sure not to make the tiniest abstraction otherwise she leaves or ghosts you...

Yea nobody is worth that shit but I see why women like that.

 

[RollerGator]

Ive been in a relationship for... 12 years? Technically 8 but we knew each other in high school.

I just... I cant stay with her on a rational level. I still love her but she has mental issues (non verbal learning disorder, maybe bipolar they cant seem to diagnose her.) and issues actually getting a job (cant even write up a resume and muster the effort to try) We dont have the same religious beliefs and she's unreliable when it comes to scheduling and communication. Plus she wants to travel a lot but gets bent out of shape and feels guilty when I pay money for her. She's self aware of her flaws and pushes me away even if she loves me too.

I think the thing that fucks me up is she was really on the upturn pre covid and it just destroyed her. She had a job, she was getting her shit together and then she was right back to square one because her parents tried to protect her and holy shit was that a mistake.

It just screws me up man. Forgive my power level but I am in a bad place. If this was the 1940s or whatever we could still make this shit work, but because we live in a society its just impossible. I know you gotta leave a sinking ship but she's the only woman ive ever been with and she's been faithful to me. Feels like im abandoning her and to top it all off im alone in the wilderness.

Honestly If I didnt want kids Id stay with her, but I do and I owe it to them not to screw them over.

>Anime pfp

Not very Christian of you to abandon her in her time of need.

 

[Michael Wade]

>Anime pfp

Not very Christian of you to abandon her in her time of need.

We ended it amicably and she's still my friend.

What's your religion again?

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

For me the dating game is really off-putting.

You know, the first dates when you have to do everything right, and please her and shower her in gifts and take her to the most expensive places and make sure not to make the tiniest abstraction otherwise she leaves or ghosts you.

Not only do you not "have to" do that, but you shouldn't be doing that under any circumstances. That is the worst basis for getting someone to spend time with you that I can possibly imagine.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

For me the dating game is really off-putting.

It is rather dystopian when that's referred to as a "market" -- like the "dating market", or one's "sexual market value" (or "SMV").

 

[56 others]

I gambled on a fart and lost in 9th grade.
Never recovered

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

I'm autisticaly shy around women and it's hard to find a boyfriend free girl.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

It is rather dystopian when that's referred to as a "market" -- like the "dating market", or one's "sexual market value" (or "SMV").

It's not dystopian - it's just reality and always has been. In pre-modern times it was even more explicitly a market, albeit on a mostly familial rather than individual level. Marriages were negotiated for dowries and enhancing a family's station in society and other such things.

Any time you have anything other people find desirable - whether it's a widget made in a factory or a particularly attractive face - market forces come into play. Acting like some aspects of human existence should somehow be exempt from that is delusional.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

It's not dystopian - it's just reality and always has been.

Then it's always been dystopian that way. It sucks if it's that way, even if that's how it is.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Which is almost always "hi" or "hey", like at least send me a funny gif you lazy shit...

Back to the church girls, the ones I mentioned are the stealthy ones, the ones that don't have kids, don't have a bunch of visible tattoos nor a laundry list of requirements to just be near them. Talking the ones that seem too good to be true but thanks to the internet you can find out about their past "escapades".
Why?
Ah greencard marriage, that's why...

Aha yep.

As for Ms. Rushed marriage, not for a green card as she was still safe on a student visa for at least a year and a half. She was just an idiot.

That's menopause, look at any definition of "the wall" and its all about looks. And 30 was the limit before but men are so desperate these days they even simp for 40yo women, I seen it.

They'll simp for ATTRACTIVE 30-40 year old women. However, the men those women actually want locked down a hot 20 something and won't give them the time of day anymore and that makes them SEETHE with rage.

Women have become way less fun to be around, besides the exponentially rising rates of obesity, mental illness, "activism", gender shit, single moms etc etc..

I feel bad for the zoomers who never experienced a normal dating life. Shit wasn't always this fucking weird gay and retarded.

Ah, so true it hurts. Danger hair is a thing, combined with disgusting obesity and single motherhood.

Don't forget gigantic gauges in the earlobes and just SHIT tattoos.

Look, some discreet or well done tattoos are ok but if they literally looks like middle school scribbles on pale flabby flesh.... Ewww.

Face, throat and chest tattoos are a NO GO for me

For me the dating game is really off-putting.

You know, the first dates when you have to do everything right, and please her and shower her in gifts and take her to the most expensive places and make sure not to make the tiniest abstraction otherwise she leaves or ghosts you...

Yea nobody is worth that shit but I see why women like that.

The thing is, way back you used to get a "second chance" if Date #1 went tits up

These days, since you're spoiled for choices as a women, it's super easy To go "nah his belt and shoes didn't match he's probably a loser NEXT"

Everything has to go PERFECT for most women to entertain a second date these days and remember, unless you're at the exclusive relationship point.... You HAVE COMPETITION.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I don’t know that a woman would fix any of the sickness in my heart.

 

[Nick Gars]

Since this thread always seems to show up when I browse the homepage listings, I'll answer the title question.

I'm a mean-spirited cunt and it would be incredibly selfish of me to expect a significant other to chain themselves to my bullshit. Grew up a loner, so while I'm far from socially retarded (you can really only "live" as a loner if you can read people, otherwise people WILL take advantage of you) and I am fully capable of empathy (often to my detriment) my personal emotions were never given the opportunity to properly grow, leading to me being the type that swings from cold and distant, to hyper-clingy, to indifferent, and so on. There's also the fact that upon an honest assessment of my life, I'm a loser with little to offer, it just feels wrong leaning into women's advances knowing in my heart of hearts they could do better than my dumbass. Sure, I work towards improvement daily, but I refuse to lie to myself to soften the blow of my actual standing in this world.

Loneliness sucks, but I'll take it over dragging someone else into this swamp.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

The thing is, way back you used to get a "second chance" if Date #1 went tits up

These days, since you're spoiled for choices as a women, it's super easy To go "nah his belt and shoes didn't match he's probably a loser NEXT"

Everything has to go PERFECT for most women to entertain a second date these days

But why would you want to spend another second with or another dime on such a woman?

I don't understand the weird "women are all so awful these days - please accept and love and validate me" dichotomy in this thread. Surely being alone is better than being conditionally loved by a superficial, contemptible person.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

It is rather dystopian when that's referred to as a "market" -- like the "dating market", or one's "sexual market value" (or "SMV").

I honestly prefer dating pool. It at least captures a lot of the more random aspects of dating and isn't a newspeak term for how we should see our relationships. Frankly, only the upper classes practiced dowries and marrying upwards to promote one's station in life since that stupid shit was important to them. The lower classes pretty much did what we did for the most part. Not like you are going to move up in life, might as well marry a woman for her qualities.

I don't understand the weird "women are all so awful these days - please accept and love and validate me" dichotomy in this thread. Surely being alone is better than being conditionally loved by a superficial, contemptible person.

I want a wife and family. You may want to die alone, but I don't and the only way to really get that is with a type of woman that you can love, cherish and be proud of. I think you are just being excessively bitter that most young men want female accompaniment all, let alone a woman that appreciates them for what they do to help and protect them. Dying alone isn't admirable to anyone with a bit of sense.


All relationships are conditional, but the conditions should be sane and gorunded in reality. Modern dating/relationships are a lot like fiat currency, in that the value of a woman or man isn't based on their character, intelligence, wisdom, skills or lack thereof of any quality: it's based on ungronded belief in men and women being exactly the same, not counterparts which are similar but not the same where the differences matter.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

I think you are just being excessively bitter that most young men want female accompaniment all

Bitter about what? I'm just taking what someone else said about women they date at face value - I'm not making that appraisal myself.

Dying alone isn't admirable to anyone with a bit of sense.

It's not about doing what's "admirable". It's about doing what makes life suck the least.

I don't want to be around the kind of women that @Falcos_Commisar described and that seems like the only sane position to take.

 

[Kel1 shi1]

These days, since you're spoiled for choices as a women, it's super easy To go "nah his belt and shoes didn't match he's probably a loser NEXT"

I saw this in 2004, women rejecting men for the slightest of reasons. She was no oil painting herself of course.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Dying alone isn't admirable to anyone with a bit of sense.

If "heat death" is a thing and if there is no afterlife, then in such a far future* after the last massive black holes evaporate and there is nothing left but sparse subatomic particles in the void, it wouldn't matter how one passed away all those endless eons ago.



* Which could be by the year 10^110 AD if protons decay, or around 10^10^76 AD if they don't.

 

[JamusActimus]

I talked with old people are children, grand children and great grand children.


They all say that having children is great but a responsability, having grand children feel awesome bbut having great grandchildren feels like you done enough in this world and that you can go in peace and happy.

I think they are right it has to give incredible inner peace to see the impact you had on this world like that.

It does not make dying a positive experiance but it's way less scary and horrible when you have people arround you like that

 

[Yeeted Teet]

I have a Kiwifarms account so it should go without saying that I'm a bit weird and probably have some undiagnosed 'tism. I am very good at being a platonic friend (to people who don't expect replies to texts immediately) but struggle a lot with forming intimate relationships and I'm not sure exactly why. It's definitely a problem on my end but I can't define it, and it's not something that's obvious to other people like being offensively ugly or unsociable. I hope I can figure it out and do something about it before I have no choice but to start collecting cats.

It doesn't help that everyone I've met in the past several years who I thought I might be be able to make something work with turned out to have one or more massive deal breakers, such as "doesn't want children", "is an alcoholic", or "already married".