Why do we put so much stock into loli/underaged characters as a direct link to being a pedo?

[Retard of the Month]

And I think Deep Thoughts often forgets that most of the audience is teenagers--the adult pedos are an outlier.

Are you trying to say that Gushing Over Magical Girls is targeted at people who are the same age as the characters? I thought it was bad enough that the show even exists. (And no, I haven't watched it, and I never will.)

 

[skykiii]

Are you trying to say that Gushing Over Magical Girls is targeted at people who are the same age as the characters? I thought it was bad enough that the show even exists. (And no, I haven't watched it, and I never will.)

I had to look up what that is and... I'm still not sure what to make of it.

 

[Demonslayer1776]

Loli has some level of ambiguity but rarely is it relevant ino. The fact is that if it looks like a kid it's pretty fucking creepy. Throw legality or any other tangents out the window, if it looks like a kid you shouldn't be jerking off to it.

I have seen some people be overzealous and throw a fit over some character that is 16 or 17 in canon but looks like they could be an adult, but this is usually retarded teenagers from twitter, and is used as a distraction from the creepy shit.

I know something is off when I see it, and I don't need a literal definition for this. If it looks bad it is bad.

I was more naive on this shit in the past, but at one point a friend of mine catfished a lolicon in his 30s while pretending to be a teenager. The connection is real and even if it isn't 100% it can't be ignored.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

If you're deriving sexual pleasure from consuming media of child rape, whether that be drawn, photographs, AI generated, whatever: you get the rope.

If you're jacking it to "loli" content you're a filthy fucking nonce, I don't care if "it's actually a 1000 year old vampire" in canon, and I don't care if the Japanese are fine with it.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Happiness is a warm blanket, Charlie Brown.

I've never heard this saying before, what's it mean?

 

[skykiii]

I've never heard this saying before, what's it mean?

Ummm... well....

Spoiler: The truth revealed

Its just an odd title for a Charlie Brown special I've never watched.

For this thread specifically, I actually did have an interpretation... but I was also hoping people would get confused and debate it.

But FWIW, I was having fun with double-meanings. Your response mentioned being gay, which of course can mean "happy" as well as "homosexual," which is what first suggested Happiness to me... then the Warm Blanket came up because, well, I have a bit of a sick mind and it immediately occured to me to think that maybe the reason the blanket is warm is because two people were "laying" on it.

In other words, it was the world's most autistically obtuse sex joke.

I actually have no idea what it means in the context of the original Charlie Brown special though. I might have to look that up. I would guess the story somehow involves Linus' security blanket.

 

[cigint]

Makes the idea of less power to the government more digestible

The average KF user who supports government overreach to begin with is going to see it as a perk that it could also be utilized to punish fatties. I can appreciate a good shoving of a point down someone's throat, but this is jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Even if there’s no connection between liking lolicon and pedophilia, have you ever had to deal with people that are obsessed with liking lolicon? They’re genuinely annoying people after a while. They’re like troons in the sense that if you say anything remotely negative about their fetish they either try to sperg out and argue with you, or they’ll just screech at you. If that doesn’t work they’ll sometimes opt for sharing their porn collection with you. If not that they have a few other copes they love to whip out.

If they're obsessed I'd actually argue they are a pedophile. One main thing about pedophiles that most people don't know about pedophiles and other sexual degenerates is they have a great misunderstanding of personal boundaries or personal boundary concepts. (the same applies with social boundaries/social concepts)

For instance as you mentioned literally sharing porn collection and a defense of loli is already breaking that personal boundary, it's one thing if they were just sharing random "porn memes" like the old Subway ones, or the guro one I got sent years ago, but when they're posting literal jack-off porn (for all intents and purposes) to you that's a lack of keeping the private private and into the personal. Hence a lack of personal boundaries.

It also applies to a lack of distinction. Easy example pl:

I came across a online party once where two people were arguing. The first guy apparently had been telling overtly sexual stories in front of multiple younger kids or something, the second another older user had been telling the first to stop being such a coomer and to keep his boner in his pants. When I entered both sides inform me of what happened, so the first guy says "Well how is what he did any different from sexualizing the party by mentioning boners in front of them." The guy obviously didn't understand context where he was being told not to be a creep/degenerate/stop acting like one while he was pushing sexual stories out. His lack of understanding very obvious.

Either way watch out for people who can't understand context, or personal boundaries. Even if they aren't pedos, they're certainly degenerates of some sort.

And what I'm saying is loli should be banned on those grounds, not that we need to prosecute 99.9% of cases; I'd be fine with it just being banned so that sites don't host it, I'm not arguing to waste time, effort, and resources prosecuting people over cartoons, except for sites which host it.

IIRC most sites did a while back but people found loopholes around it. The only sites still hosting it as far as I know are ones not hosted in the USA. Goes to show outlawing or banning anything and putting more power in law does nothing. Similar to prohibition bar the fact taht alcohol is nowhere near as bad for society well at least imo.

Is it so bad to want the Internet cleaned up? Look how effective society can be when it wants to be. Virtually all of the Internet strictly forbids """hate speech""" and there's not even a ban on it, it's just something the Internet unanimously and effectively set a de facto ban on. Why not have a de jure ban on loli then? It would virtually disappear from the Internet just like hate speech did, except for a few shady sites where no kids or unsuspecting "normal porn" viewers could stumble upon it, and everyone's happy.

Because the people in favor of hate speech also probably love loli. The same thing I mentioned at the top of this post about lacking distinction on disliked speech vs. general free speech making its obvious appearance and lack of boundaries within speech. Weird coincidence lefties are fine with trooning children and pedophilia while also lacking understanding of personal and private boundaries all the time or even moral and immoral behaviors?

I've never heard this saying before, what's it mean?

It's actually a special from Peanuts/Charlie Brown, and basically although not a saying it merely means in the episode that as Linus is criticized for feeling secure in his blanket, and chastised for it he points out the other characters do similar things to make their sense of "self" secured.

The average KF user who supports government overreach to begin with is going to see it as a perk that it could also be utilized to punish fatties. I can appreciate a good shoving of a point down someone's throat, but this is jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

I'd rather people support treadmill torture to fatties than empowering government overreach.

 

[SwanSwanson]

This is something weird I've obserbed, "lolicons" for whatever reason don't seem to be as disruptive as other internet groups and remain sequestered in their own little circles. Has anyone else observed this?

 

[r9k-speaks]

This is something weird I've obserbed, "lolicons" for whatever reason don't seem to be as disruptive as other internet groups and remain sequestered in their own little circles. Has anyone else observed this?

Probably because unlike BBC and Trans, Loli isn't a Government psyop.

 

[Twilight Twill*^]

This is something weird I've obserbed, "lolicons" for whatever reason don't seem to be as disruptive as other internet groups and remain sequestered in their own little circles. Has anyone else observed this?

Lolicons have gotten very uppity in recent years from my observations. For example, a loli-obsessed Vtuber drama reporter named Kuri Rinji, got someone from da sektur banned for calling lolicons pedophiles. Honestly, those child-diddle art lovers can't handle differing opinions, or they know its true deep down.

 

[skykiii]

Probably because unlike BBC and Trans, Loli isn't a Government psyop.

Is it really a "psyop" when BBC is literally a government-run television channel and says so right in its name?

This is something weird I've obserbed, "lolicons" for whatever reason don't seem to be as disruptive as other internet groups and remain sequestered in their own little circles. Has anyone else observed this?

I dunno about lolicons but I have seen people try to force sexual stuff onto kids more openly lately. Usually they get backlash but still, its clearly there.

...... also, since I made this rant everywhere else, I might as well paste it here:

.... I hate that for some reason, whenever you hear the word spoken, people pronounce it as "lolly-con."

One, that isn't even correct--its loh-lee, not lah-lee.

Second, "Lolly-con" just makes me think of the word Lollipop, which just brings up a whole host of word associations I don't even wanna delve into. Perhaps I should support the common pronounciation as it somehow makes the word and concept even more disgusting.

 

[r9k-speaks]

I dunno about lolicons but I have seen people try to force sexual stuff onto kids more openly lately. Usually they get backlash but still, its clearly there.

Usually thats the LGBT lobby pushing things like earlier sex education, child drag shows, child trans. Under the guise of "inclusivity".

Second, "Lolly-con" just makes me think of the word Lollipop, which just brings up a whole host of word associations I don't even wanna delve into. Perhaps I should support the common pronounciation as it somehow makes the word and concept even more disgusting.

There was at least two FBI documents that came out that show what symbols and words are used by pedos. But everyone really just wants to put their head in the sand. It's too inconvenient for them to think about.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Is it really a "psyop" when BBC is literally a government-run television channel and says so right in its name?


I dunno about lolicons but I have seen people try to force sexual stuff onto kids more openly lately. Usually they get backlash but still, its clearly there.

...... also, since I made this rant everywhere else, I might as well paste it here:

.... I hate that for some reason, whenever you hear the word spoken, people pronounce it as "lolly-con."

One, that isn't even correct--its loh-lee, not lah-lee.

Second, "Lolly-con" just makes me think of the word Lollipop, which just brings up a whole host of word associations I don't even wanna delve into. Perhaps I should support the common pronounciation as it somehow makes the word and concept even more disgusting.

I refuse to give the Lolipops any respect (thanks Ethan for that lol). I will make fun of them at every opportunity.

 

[skykiii]

There was at least two FBI documents that came out that show what symbols and words are used by pedos.

Links, please?

 

[r9k-speaks]

Links, please?

Here's one I know of.

https://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/File:FBI-pedophile-symbols-page1.jpg

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Ummm... well....

Spoiler: The truth revealed

Its just an odd title for a Charlie Brown special I've never watched.

For this thread specifically, I actually did have an interpretation... but I was also hoping people would get confused and debate it.

But FWIW, I was having fun with double-meanings. Your response mentioned being gay, which of course can mean "happy" as well as "homosexual," which is what first suggested Happiness to me... then the Warm Blanket came up because, well, I have a bit of a sick mind and it immediately occured to me to think that maybe the reason the blanket is warm is because two people were "laying" on it.

In other words, it was the world's most autistically obtuse sex joke.

I actually have no idea what it means in the context of the original Charlie Brown special though. I might have to look that up. I would guess the story somehow involves Linus' security blanket.

I'm no less confused than before your explanation lol.

Anyway, I think my point stands, insinuating everyone who opposes loli actually likes it is the same argument fags use.

The only sites still hosting it as far as I know are ones not hosted in the USA. Goes to show outlawing or banning anything and putting more power in law does nothing. Similar to prohibition bar the fact taht alcohol is nowhere near as bad for society well at least imo.

I don't know the logistics behind how such a ban would be implemented, but I'm sure just being outside USA isn't going to save a site from being deplatformed. If it was that easy then I'm sure KF could just be hosted outside USA and problem solved. If society treated porn like it does hate speech it'd be nigh eradicated.

As for alcohol, I think it's equally bad in its own way, arguably worse. However, since prohibition failed everyone pretends it's impossible to ban because we already tried so there's nearly no interest in trying again. Part of that is because of how society views and values alcohol is much different, people love porn but I think they love booze even more, and it's not stigmatized.

Because the people in favor of hate speech also probably love loli. The same thing I mentioned at the top of this post about lacking distinction on disliked speech vs. general free speech making its obvious appearance and lack of boundaries within speech. Weird coincidence lefties are fine with trooning children and pedophilia while also lacking understanding of personal and private boundaries all the time or even moral and immoral behaviors?

I agree, but as this thread indicates, loli is popular on both sides, though certainly more with libtards. I think the only difference is the right rationalizes it away as just cartoons because the right has a tendency to at least consider morality, whereas the left either doesn't or actually gets off on immortality.

It's actually a special from Peanuts/Charlie Brown, and basically although not a saying it merely means in the episode that as Linus is criticized for feeling secure in his blanket, and chastised for it he points out the other characters do similar things to make their sense of "self" secured.

I see, that's a better explanation than he gave, but I still don't see how it was a relevant saying.

This is something weird I've obserbed, "lolicons" for whatever reason don't seem to be as disruptive as other internet groups and remain sequestered in their own little circles. Has anyone else observed this?

Probably due to shame, which is viewed negatively but is actually an important component of a healthy society. Also, I assume they're a minority group among hentai enthusiasts. Though as evidenced whenever the topic is brought up, they do go to bat for it.

.... I hate that for some reason, whenever you hear the word spoken, people pronounce it as "lolly-con."

One, that isn't even correct--its loh-lee, not lah-lee.

The latter pronunciation sounds more natural. I think you're right though, I only ever heard it pronounced in a couple anime and assumed it was mispronounced because the actors were Canadian or something.

Usually thats the LGBT lobby pushing things like earlier sex education, child drag shows, child trans. Under the guise of "inclusivity".

But it's not "under the guise of inclusivity", it is inclusivity. They want to include degenerates in children's lives. It's just that normal people know that inclusivity is not an inherent good, and that there's a place for discrimination, which is not an inherently bad thing.

I refuse to give the Lolipops any respect (thanks Ethan for that lol). I will make fun of them at every opportunity.

Based

 

[Señora Airi]

Vtuber drama reporter

Ah, so lower than scum.

Anyway, the main reason for the pipeline theory is that the lolicons are usually outcast due to mental issues or hobbies, and think all grown women are whores who have had multiple partners, so they want the innocent little girl to fantasize about.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

I don't know the logistics behind how such a ban would be implemented, but I'm sure just being outside USA isn't going to save a site from being deplatformed. If it was that easy then I'm sure KF could just be hosted outside USA and problem solved. If society treated porn like it does hate speech it'd be nigh eradicated.

Well some sites maintain in certain countries where the laws are more lax on that kind of content. Though keep in mind pedophiles in the world are heavily powerful so keeping that shit up is far easiesr than certain other violations that those same kind of power brokers hate (like sites for instance KF)

As for alcohol, I think it's equally bad in its own way, arguably worse. However, since prohibition failed everyone pretends it's impossible to ban because we already tried so there's nearly no interest in trying again. Part of that is because of how society views and values alcohol is much different, people love porn but I think they love booze even more, and it's not stigmatized.

I think it's more some things due to society demanding them are near impossible to remove. For better or for worse or have become so ingrained it's realistically impossible to remove. Porn is becoming similar which is concerning as is coomerism (and blind consumerism)

I agree, but as this thread indicates, loli is popular on both sides, though certainly more with libtards. I think the only difference is the right rationalizes it away as just cartoons because the right has a tendency to at least consider morality, whereas the left either doesn't or actually gets off on immortality.

True, and fair. Though my analogy was only just as stated people on the right who can't understand boundaries I would assume are the same.

I see, that's a better explanation than he gave, but I still don't see how it was a relevant saying.

I think it was just a shit post tbh I thought I'd explain it though since I knew about it.

 

[skykiii]

Anyway, I think my point stands, insinuating everyone who opposes loli actually likes it is the same argument fags use.

Actually what I was getting at is the same thing another poster was:

When the same topic keeps coming up, and always gets dozens of pages of discussion that all read like everyone is speaking in earnest.... yeah, that's a bad look.

I mean, to use an analogy: there's a difference between a guy who just happens to be in the area to help defend someone against criminals, and being someone who dresses up as a bat and seeks out crime so he can step in and be a hero.