No Time to Die 007 - Time to Go Broke

Sex Cannon Lupa said:
The problem with Bond is the series used to set trends but eventually started chasing them. I guess it worked with Moonraker, but Quantum of Solace was too Bourne-like for a lot of people, Skyfall was just a remake of TWINE spy version of the Dark Knight, and Skyfall and Spectre were just Denis Villaneuve shit. I guess that makes NT2D a Marvel ripoff and I don't care if you rate me autistic because it's true.



A trilogy really should be the max. Both Brosnan and Craig hated making them and it started showing after only a couple movies.
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Well honestly there's a good argument to be made that Bond always was chasing trends. It helped though that the first thing they were cribbing notes from is Alfred Hitchcock's timeless thriller North By Northwest. A youtuber goes more in depth than I could care to write.

When I first watched Northwest it felt so strange because Gary Grant just carries himself in a way that's become trademark James Bond. The producers of Dr. No wanted Grant but Grant didn't want sequels so they moved on. There's no doubt in my mind that Connery was directed to mimic Grant. North By Northwest's brilliant sex joke closing the film with a train going into a tunnel is surely what started the tradition of nearly every Bond film ending with Bond going happily ever after with the main love interest. Ian Fleming mostly ended his novels with Bond just killing the antagonist.

I think it's a cheap criticism to say a film is bad because it's copying other great entertainment. Sad reality is cinema got flashier and what once was an ACTION FILM like Goldfinger would now be considered a slow paced movie because it's not insane explosions every 15 minutes.

I just really wish Craig's latter films had a consistent tone. Casino Royale and Quantum were straight forward and down to earth. But then you got Spectre which still wants to go dark having a scene where a terminally ill man commits suicide but then you have goofy street racing with Bautista.

Can't have it both ways which is what No Time To Die seemingly also does. I am not happy that No Time To Die has a plot with fucking Nano Bots. I liked Casino Royale because the antagonist initially just wanted to short sell a stock.
 
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Cardenio said:
I think it's a cheap criticism to say a film is bad because it's copying other great entertainment.
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I don't think so. It's one thing to do something in the genre because that's what's popular (like Moonraker), and another to make The Dark Knight: James Bond Edition because Barbara Broccoli and her terrible writers are fucking hacks. NT2D being delayed for two years is probably the only reason we didn't get black 007 looking at a Bond's ghost and declaring herself "Nomi, Nomi Bond" before twirling his PPK and guzzling down a vodka martini.
 
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Cardenio said:
I guess it could always be worse, Hollywood ran the Pink Panther film series into the fucking ground.
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The problem with the Pink Panther movies was that their appeal was inextricably tied to Peter Sellers. He was what made the movies so funny to most people, and when he died, he basically took the franchise down with him. Obviously, there were Pink Panther movies made after his death, but they were all hated by critics and, with the exception of the 2006 movie, audiences. Not even Steve Martin was enough to bring the laughs back.

BTW, I mainly remember the franchise not from the movies, but from the cartoons spawned from the title sequences. That should tell you where the franchise really stands in pop culture, as should the fact that MGM's planning a reboot not with Inspector Clouseau, but with a CGI panther.
 
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Fat Tub of Lard said:
The problem with the Pink Panther movies was that their appeal was inextricably tied to Peter Sellers. He was what made the movies so funny to most people, and when he died, he basically took the franchise down with him. Obviously, there were Pink Panther movies made after his death, but they were all hated by critics and, with the exception of the 2006 movie, audiences. Not even Steve Martin was enough to bring the laughs back.

BTW, I mainly remember the franchise not from the movies, but from the cartoons spawned from the title sequences. That should tell you where the franchise really stands in pop culture, as should the fact that MGM's planning a reboot not with Inspector Clouseau, but with a CGI panther.
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A YouTube channel I highly enjoy did two videos on The Pink Panther. According to him the studios either wanted Steve Martin or Mike Myers to take the lead. Sadly The Love Guru happened and so Martin got the role.

It makes me sad because I'm convinced Myers could have been the actor to live up to Peter Sellers amazing performance. Maybe it also would have failed since Martin's Pink Panther was so soulless with shameless product placement but I think a matured Myers would have been perfect as the foolish Clouseau.

P..S. Everyone should watch "A Shot in the Dark" and "The Party." Sellers was a genius.

 
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The Valeyard said:
The director of No Time To Die has been accused of firing an actress after she refused to go topless in True Detective. (Archive)
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While it’s an allegation first and foremost, I found this ironic since he famously did the Alexandria Daddario scene with Woody Harrelson:

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Cardenio said:
A YouTube channel I highly enjoy did two videos on The Pink Panther. According to him the studios either wanted Steve Martin or Mike Myers to take the lead. Sadly The Love Guru happened and so Martin got the role.

It makes me sad because I'm convinced Myers could have been the actor to live up to Peter Sellers amazing performance. Maybe it also would have failed since Martin's Pink Panther was so soulless with shameless product placement but I think a matured Myers would have been perfect as the foolish Clouseau.

P..S. Everyone should watch "A Shot in the Dark" and "The Party." Sellers was a genius.

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Shot in the Dark is by far my favorite of The Pink Panther movies. Its brilliantly funny.
 
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Cactuar King said:
The moment he said Sean Connery's Bond was a rapist, it was guaranteed to happen. Male feminists can only go so long without being outed as the biggest sex pests of them all.
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Lol, and why should he be considered a "sex pest"? The actress was not good enough for the job and was fired, period. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
 
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Looks like the last Craig Bond is a dud

So far its earned like $350 mil worldwide...so not even breaking even.

Now whether this is because of covid or because people are tired of Bond movies is up for debate.

Still...not a good showing for the 1st (kinda) woke Bond film.
 
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The director of No Time To Die has been accused of firing an actress after she refused to go topless in True Detective. (Archive)
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The article literally says an unknown producer fired her.

When reached, a person close to production told TheWrap that Greer was hired to play an exotic dancer in a strip club, and that one of the scenes called for the character to appear on stage with other dancers.
It was a day-player part, possibly one that called for two days of work. When Greer arrived to set following a local casting that the production source said was probably performed online, she was presented with the standard SAG (Screen Actors Guild) agreement and a nudity rider. When Greer informed producers that she was uncomfortable with the nudity, she was paid as a matter of courtesy, our insider said. They then recast the part.
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This is rape! He must never work again!

Sweet and Savoury said:
Looks like the last Craig Bond is a dud

So far its earned like $350 mil worldwide...so not even breaking even.

Now whether this is because of covid or because people are tired of Bond movies is up for debate.

Still...not a good showing for the 1st (kinda) woke Bond film.
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No sympathy at all. If they had kept the weapon a virus instead of bowing to China the movie would have been baysed as hell, but now it's just woke garbage.
 
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Sweet and Savoury said:
Looks like the last Craig Bond is a dud

So far its earned like $350 mil worldwide...so not even breaking even.

Now whether this is because of covid or because people are tired of Bond movies is up for debate.

Still...not a good showing for the 1st (kinda) woke Bond film.
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It's actually at $450m worldwide and yet to open in China. Apparently it needs $600m to break even, so it should just about manage it, unless Dune and The Eternals really eat its lunch.

Its performance Stateside isn't much to write home about however. While it's true that Skyfall and Spectre performed freakishly well by Bond film standards, it looks like No Time To Die is not only going to do worse than any of the previous four Craig movies, but probably even Die Another Day as well.
 
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It's out, mateys.
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Who's the first one brave enough to watch it and review it?
 
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