Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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No, this shit doesn’t fly. You don’t get to invade other countries because they MIGHT be a threat, you only get to use this excuse if they ARE a threat.
I'm not trying to white knight for Russia, but there is good reason to invade a place before they become a threat. When they are becoming a threat is precisely when you should do something, because that's when you can snuff it out before it's an issue.

Whether or not Ukraine was becoming a threat is a different question, but Russia's not 100% in the wrong here imo.
 
King’s analogy for the Russia/Ukraine thing
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Damn the CP bot hates Russia? Pack it up Putin, this one is already lost.
>Kiwifarms posts the Odessa Massacre and Azov shit

>Porn spam

I had never seen that crucifixion before - which is saying a lot, I was not aware that was an accusation towards Ukrainian militias.

And then suddenly, Ukrainians spam CP.

Well, now I back Russia.
 
The Ukraine propaganda (especially for Zelensky) feels disingenuous. Like it's the same PR people who tried to make Hillary likable.

So Zelensky
-Allows western "elites" to launder money through his country
-Saber rattles about joining NATO continuously knowing it upsets Russia
-Demands to be let into EU in the middle of an ongoing war with Russia knowing that it will upset them
-Hands out guns to random citizens which have at this point, probably killed more fellow Ukrainians then Russians
-Releases dangerous criminals to help the war effort
-Invites people from wherever the fuck to help fight (this is a great way to get some bad people with bad intentions into the country)
-Got untold number of his own people killed because he didn't want to negotiate with Russia

This dude is getting all his advice from the DNC. Wow

DNC: It Prints Enemies!
The normies love when they're given the green light to dehumanize specific groups -- just like the cartoon japanese rat in WW2 and towelheads post 9/11.
It’s a staple of leftists that they’re always one step away from their ideal utopia, and all they have to do is purge the undesirables. We say it Canada, we saw it after 1/6, and now it’s happening again, except this one is decades in the making:
taken from a /pol/ thread but jesus fucking christ! you're negotiating for the lives of your fellow countrymen and you show up looking like THAT?!
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show some fuckin' respect and at least PRETEND you're not incompetent hacks that don't give a damn about anything but your own asses, like so:
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The most I can think is this is for the cameras. No peace achieved, side can say “the adversary had no interest in a peaceful outcome”, and now they have an excuse to destroy them ten times over.
They're begging Cloudflare to drop DDOS protection and hosting for Russian govt. websites, now.

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It does make me wonder where all the cryptobros who were hyping up Ukraine, due to its corruption, are now.

If Cloudflare does bend the knee to this, it will be most unfortunate and set a precedent that other non-American countries can whinge them into submission.
And Kiwis are most affected.
And folks around here wonder why I am not that Sympathetic to the Ukraine.
I don’t think anyone was wondering. Throw Reddit or a blue checkmark into the mix, and a Kiwi won’t stop until it’s dead.
Now that Russian businesses in the US are being vandalized how long until people unironically call for internment camps for anyone of Russian descent?

The irony is that the owner of the establishment is Lithuanian.
Doesn’t matter, Soviet.
I give it a week. It's Our Democracy™️ after all.
I’d say as soon as they can throw Trump voters and supporters in with them. Cold War and 2016 are finally getting its payoff apparently.
What's even crazier is we're seeing the same types of rhetoric from the left that you saw after 9/11 under Bush. A lot of these fucking retards were growing up when that shit happened (and probably still appose it to this day) but are literally fucking repeating it. We are doomed to repeat the same mistakes until they end in nuclear Armageddon.

It's also amazing how quickly the left has become bigger nationalists than the right over night without suffering any whiplash. These asshats have no self awareness, I'm starting to believe the NPC meme might be literally true. These people must not actually have a soul.

They're not nationalists. They'll switch back to their "America is racist and rotten to its core" once we move on to next month's outrage.
And on the other side of the Internet, the self described exiles call Putin based for going after an international military alliance, and all that’s missing is rallying behind the sanctions and Russia being unable to be Russia in certain aspects to donate shekels to Putin’a cause:
I went from pro-Russian neutral to straight Team Russia because of the amount of faggotry in this thread.
Surprised Reddit and Twitter supporting Ukraine didn’t do it already.
 
Okay I red so much bullshit the last couple days, let me recap some facts.

- Ukraine is boned to fight Russia 1v1. Air supremacy rules everything and Ukraine's airfield have been shuted down.

- Distributing small arms to civillians in huge urban centers for a siege preparation is A FUCKING TERRIBLE idea. They make themselves a target, won't do shit vs artillery, tanks, air superiority and trained soldiers ( to a degree ). Also mighty tempting to go on a robbing spree if things get bleak. That's a desesperate Volksturm move and we are not in 1945.

- Russia is acting out of national security interest while violating a nation's right to govern itself; This is a very complicated moral issues and people painting it pure black or white are absolute fucking monkeys.

I'm torn as to which side is morally less worse: Volodymyr Zelensky strikes me more of the type that prefers his people going down and keep a good self image, rather than take the fall and make the conflict end, saving a lot of lives. I feel for the population not wanting to get annexed by their neighboor, but is it really worth dying for?

If I was him, I would offer terms and abdicate to save ukrainian lives; people right now are fighting and dying for absolutly nothing as the outcome is already decided. That would be blood on my hands instead of just Putin's.
It's not about stopping the russian army, it's about making keeping the territory extremely expensive, Zelensky is also probably betting that if somehow they get out of this situation as an indipendent country they'll receive some pocket change from the west to partialy put the nation back on track, while a russian puppet state would be sanctioned to economic oblivion like its overlord
 
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>Being so on the spectrum and into reddit asspats, you blacked out and woke up one morning somewhere in eastern europe, wearing your sweatpants and bright yellow jacket, just for more attention on reddit. Enjoy getting perforated by a PKM faggot. Hope it was worth it!
Irrepressible faggot Richard Spencer is still welcome on Twitter tho 🤔

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This is not unexpected. There is nothing that guy can't fuck up.
To these boomers, their entire existence is virtue signaling. They live for it, and are completely unaware of how ineffective and vapidly stupid they look doing it. Go write another shitty book jew.

Speaking of: Forced myself to watch Ben Shapiro just to see what small-r and neocon normies are watching today. Apparently he is a Democrat now. All the same talking points. Zelensky is a hero! We should all worship him. Biden Sucks! China China China! I'd rather watch that dog get shot again over and over than force myself through another episode of his boring shit again.
 
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If I was him, I would offer terms and abdicate to save ukrainian lives; people right now are fighting and dying for absolutly nothing as the outcome is already decided. That would be blood on my hands instead of just Putin's.
Let's be realistic, no government is going to surrender to being an entire puppet state if they think they can put up enough of a fight to get something out of it. My bet is that Zelensky knows he can't win, but he thinks he can have Ukraine put up enough of a fight at Kyiv and Kharkiv that Putin is willing to see that taking central and west Ukraine just isn't really in the cards, he's trying to buy himself as much time as possible to have the sanctions start to their thing, while also causing the Russians to fall further behind their time table and inflicting higher than projected Russian causalities (I don't buy the losses Ukraine is giving, but they're definitely giving the Russians more than they probably thought they would).
 
How do you think they feel about that? I know how I would feel. How do you think they feel about the 2014 Odessa Massacre, where dozens of Russians were herded into a building and burned alive?

I am not joking. That happened. And why am I just learning about this now?
While I may not be as educated in things like this coming to this thread and keeping up with it has informed me of so much more than the media or my education ever could've regarding things like this. Its sad and sickening the things that are tossed away/ignored by media/covered up and for what reason? Fuck if I know.
I don't agree with Russia armies killing people but I know that if I hadn't have come to this thread then I would be siding with the media unknowing of what Ukraine has done to at least antagonize Putin.
Thank you for all your hard work. I'm going to go read up on some other stuff mentioned in this post as I have been doing with a majority of this thread.
Semper fi to you all :semperfidelis:
 
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