Indiana Jones & the Dial of Destiny - Using time travel to literally retcon the series

And this is why [current year] movies should not involve Nazis in any capacity: because clown world is so retarded that the slightest mention of them must be followed by a diatribe about how bad they were and how only evil subhuman scum could belong to a political party that you were legally obligated to join.
You do realize we aren't talking about something like the Wehrmacht which YES you were legally obligated to join, we're talking about the fucking SS and those fuckers were nothing short of Hitler fanboys who agreed with all his insane shit about "Da germans are superior race guyz!" . But please, do keep telling me how I should feel pity for every last SS bastard.
 
What just occurred to me is this dumb name for this film is strangely close to a name that if used with one word changed could have made a very interesting Jones film - "The Spear of Destiny". For those that dont know what this is, the Spear of Destiny is the spear that was thrust into the side of Christ by the Roman soldier during his crucifixion. As the spear came in contact with the Blood of Christ it was said to hole immense power and was passed down through Kings. Hitler was very interested in it and is supposed to have taken possession of it in Austria.
So "Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny" is actually a thing. And apparently the rumors of Hitler searching for the Spear of Destiny directly inspired Lawrence Kasdan while writing his script to "Raiders", which originally included a reference to Hitler's search for the Spear, but this was cut before filming due to Lucas worrying it would cause a copywrite conflict with other adventure stories that already involved the Spear of Destiny.

But all this means that there's a lot of history with Indy and the Spear of Destiny already in place, so that would really have made a much more appropriate film premise.

Though I guess is might be too similar to the "Librarian" films they made for TNT in the 2000's, at least one of which features him hunting down the Spear of Destiny, to control a pyramid or something? Fun films, but very dumb. I'm pretty sure Lara Croft went after the Spear in one game as well. So it might be a little too over-used by now.

I've always thought the Staff of Moses would also make a great Indiana Jones adventure. In Exodus, when Moses dies, God literally takes Moses' body and buries it himself. Imagine Jones trying to find a tomb built by God himself!

Also imagine the climactic scene. Indy is running from the big bad with the sraff in one hand and the love interest in the other and they come up to a body of water. Trapped! He looks out at the water, exhausted desperation on his face. Looks down at the staff. "Noooo..." he mutters exasperated. Looks back, bad guys getting closer. Looks back at the water and slowly raises the staff....

Shit. If I can do this why is it so God damn hard for Hollywood?
If you've ever seen the show "Grimm", the Staff of Moses is a major part of the finale, for what that's worth. Not a great way to end the show, sadly, but it's the only time I've seen the staff brought up in any media.

If there must be more Indy, I think going outside the Bible would be good just to mix it up. How about finding Excalibur, or Gae Bolg, or Ra's solar barge? There's a ton of mythological artifacts not directly tied to God Himself. Instead they're reduced to OC Donut Steel artifacts that they made up.
Honestly, there aren't that many artifacts that are both well-known enough and important enough to warrant an Indy film at this point. Excalibur would definitely fit, and might even count as a Christian artifact. Mjolnir would've worked, but Marvel have probably ruined that option. Pandora's Box would work well, and it could fit it in with a Nazi or Soviet plotline about making a bio-weapon, but that's already basically the plot of a Lara Croft film.

There's really not a lot left to look for, the Holy Grail is kind of the big, ultimate, final artifact to find. That's why it's called the Holy Grail.

There's a reason the game was about Atlantis, what else is there to find that is well known to western audiences? Temple of Doom was consider "the bad Indy film" largely because nobody knows what those glowing stones are supposed to be.

And I'm not really sure what the Nazi's would want Excalibur for anyway; besides making Hitler the King of England, it doesn't really have any real power. And even if he found it, I doubt the Brits would accept the legality of it, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government after all.
 
You do realize we aren't talking about something like the Wehrmacht which YES you were legally obligated to join, we're talking about the fucking SS and those fuckers were nothing short of Hitler fanboys who agreed with all his insane shit about "Da germans are superior race guyz!" . But please, do keep telling me how I should feel pity for every last SS bastard.
Can you go back to Reddit or Something Awful with your dumb, indoctrinated bullshit instead of shitting up the thread with MUH NAH ZEES!
 
Also Disney making a movie where a Nazi working for the US in the space race is the villain is funny to me given their relationship with Wernher von Braun.
Yeah it is very ironic that the new disney Indiana Jones is making a "operation paperclip was a bad thing" statement when Walt was friends with Wernher von Braun in real life.
 
Ford must owe an apocalytical amount of money to the IRS, that's the only reason I can see for him doing these nostalgia roles at his age.
It is ego as well, easily, and he gets much more sway in things now. In 2042 he refused to wear anything other than a T shirt. In FA he finally got to kill Han Solo like he'd wanted all those years ago, in this he gets to be a badass and then die again to guarantee he doesn't have to do anything but cameos in the future.
 
There were 2: Temple of Doom and Last Crusade. Raiders doesn't count because nothing that happened in that movie mattered lol.
I thought Temple of Doom sucked once the beginning part was over. The beginning, when he's in the Chinese night club, was awesome, but once that's over it was dumb. Last Crusade is the best movie by far. Raiders was very good, but I think Last Crusade is much better.

Crystal skull stunk. Shouldn't even be considered when talking about these movies. Dilator of Destiny or whatever it's called will also be hated and quickly forgotten like Crystal Skull.
There's still this guy?

They should just get that guy who played young Indiana Jones in the beginning scene of Last Crusade. What's he doing these days? Oh wait...
Uh-huh, sure he was. The fucker was part of the SS and those POS never regretted anything, no matter how much they claim they did.
You're not a mind reader, you're a dick sucker. Get it straight.
 
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I hope they release Special Edition Blu-Rays of the original films with Ford replaced by whoever this latest unpretty mouse-haired actress is so we can all enjoy watching them cope and seethe when those don't sell, either.
now do it with solo and deckard, if harrison ford hates the roles that much I'm sure he won't mind. not like he's know for much else.
 
I thought Temple of Doom sucked once the beginning part was over. The beginning, when he's in the Chinese night club, was awesome, but once that's over it was dumb. Last Crusade is the best movie by far. Raiders was very good, but I think Last Crusade is much better.

Crystal skull stunk. Shouldn't even be considered when talking about these movies. Dilator of Destiny or whatever it's called will also be hated and quickly forgotten like Crystal Skull.
I think Temple of Doom was the best because it's the least formulaic of the three. Indy himself is out of the picture for act 2 forcing the supporting characters to carry the action, and his intervention actually matters unlike in Raiders. Also, not dealing with the absolute cliche fest that is Hollywood Nazis is a big point in it's favor. I don't know if subsequent work has just colored my opinion and the movies were legitimately compelling at the time, or whatever, but both Raiders and Crusade have a very insubstantial, paint-by-numbers feel to them.

As for Crystal Skull, Ford was too old for the part then, and he hadn't gotten younger in the meantime.
 
couldn't they have at least cast an attractive woman? film is a visual medium, why choose ugliness? I think I'll pass on this one.
I'd suggest JLaw since she's convinced that she's the action genre's greatest thing since sliced bread. But she comes across as the Appalachian town bicycle who decided to move to LA.
It's seething at Russia, not communism, and the USSR is still associated more with communism than Russia. Honestly I'd find the movie more ballsy if the Nazi genuinely turns out to be a good guy that's remorseful and Indy learns to accept that things have changed, but that's a little too interesting for modern movies.
I love how these people are waiting for the opportunity to punch a Nazi with glee but the Western veterans who fought the actual German war machine have been cordial with their former enemies for decades now. I saw a video on the Bovington Tank Museum YT channel earlier this year and a British tanker wanted to shake hands with a German one when he learned that he fought in the Battle of Kursk.
You do realize we aren't talking about something like the Wehrmacht which YES you were legally obligated to join, we're talking about the fucking SS and those fuckers were nothing short of Hitler fanboys who agreed with all his insane shit about "Da germans are superior race guyz!" . But please, do keep telling me how I should feel pity for every last SS bastard.
Snickers time for you. You sound like someone who would punch the late Hardy Krüger:


The truth of the matter is that not all SS men were baby-strangling maniacs. It began as a bodyguard unit modeled after the elite infantry and cavalry units of the Kingdom of Prussia, the Principality of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel and the Kaiserreich. This is why they were clad in black and wore skull emblems. Some SS units were just equestrian clubs to entice the German nobility. And the award for the most diverse fighting unit of WW2 goes to the freaking Waffen-SS. It literally means armed wing of the SS and started out as an elite unit of Germans soldiers who embodied the ideal German of the time. But there's more! It had foreign units of Albanians, Dutch, Scandinavians, Ukrainians, French, Armenians, Hungarians, Italians, Azerbaijanis, Bosniaks, Cossacks, Baltics, Georgians, Indians and more joining to fight in the "crusade" against Bolshevism or to free India from British rule. Or to get out of the POW camp, drink, womanize and goldbrick. Looking at you British Free Corps.
 
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