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Salt, Pepper, and The Adventures of Schizobunny - A containment thread, because Bad Webcomics has been laughing at this bitch for half a year straight now.
Great start, eh? That title isn't exaggeration btw, that's the stated purpose of this comic by the author.
This thread is mostly meant to contain discussion of SaltNPepperBunny / MouseWithADinosaurTail's works. That mostly means her comics, but I guess her fanfiction is fair game too. She hasn't got much of it, but I'm sure its quality is comparable to her comics.
If you're normal and have no clue what any of this is referring to, I've included an extremely long collection of posts regarding the author, her intended audience, and almost all of her work in a spoiler at the end of this post. They are truncated here for posterity, but contain very lengthy elaborations if you're interested.
In short, SaltNPepperBunny is a twenty-something furry with three rabbits and an obsession with normalizing very dangerous mental illness. She isn't a cow at least, not yet: she's relatively composed behavior-wise and seems to be mature enough to prevent public tantrums or spirals into one thing or another, but she's somewhat unstable and very delusional. The main point of interest in this case is her body of work.
Going in chronological order, with the oldest comics at the top and the newest at the bottom:
"Finding Your Roots": billed as an average Pokémon Nuzlocke comic with some type restrictions and no humans. This is the author's first and most popular comic and starts out completely free of any gender shit whatsoever. As the work goes on, though, it slowly creeps in, to the point that it's a relatively common theme by the second badge (several-hundred pages in). Still, it isn't nearly as big a thing here as it is in her other works.
"Little Lapses": sold as a light adventure story between three childhood friends. In reality, the entire comic is consistently littered with themes about sexuality (starting as early as page 5 of the entire comic), to the point where a major component of these elementary-age kids' characters is who they want to bang or what gender they transitioned from.
Children of the Lightis a comic about a family of imaginary, nonbinary, schizophrenic glowing squirrels. Beginning on the 14th of September, 2022, this comic's stated purpose is to create sympathy for schizophrenic people as simply "neurodivergent". As a result, one of the content warnings on this thing is "ableism"... not for any actual prejudice against the physically or developmentally impaired, but because some characters (reasonably) think that the schizophrenic is not safe to be around.
These three comics weren't discussed too extensively in the thread, with little attention being given to either Pokémon comic and only passing mention to Children of the Light outside of me because I find it really fucking crazy. This thread will, instead, likely be dominated by the titular "schizobunny" comic:
Pipe Up bills itself as an original work about two young children. [It revolves around a high-school rabbit, Percy, losing his identity to four different strangers that all reside in his head. These strangers range from a VERY stereotypical edgelord weasel who's nonbinary and smokes weed (Niko), a thirty-something prostitute-adjacent bluebird who's also nonbinary (Harper), literally just Percy but trans (Piper), and a stranger whom we have yet to meet... some edgy wolf dude. They are collectively called "The Warren," and the comic is about Percy's gay best friend, Kai, dealing with the consequences of having an absolutely insane classmate who is slowly killing himself.]
That's a heavily paraphrased summary, and if you've got the time there's a lot more detail in the various posts linked below, but that's about the gist of it. I probably made it sound a lot more interesting than it actually is: the actual comic is done in pastels with a very cutesy style, with a lot of emphasis on how tragic (unu) and misunderstood (ono) the schizophrenic hivemind is.
This, of course, attracts lots and lots of children to the comment sections! As well as middle-aged furries that probably want to prey upon them, but this thread isn't about that yet. So if the comic itself is ever short on material, a good rule of thumb is to always check what the idiots down below have to say about what's going on. It will never, ever be intelligent, and there's a very high chance that whatever you read will have been posted by some 15 year old kid on hormones and/or several different medications.
Anywho, that's enough information for now. If you really want to know more, just click the spoiler. Enjoy.
All posts are condensed to their first lines to keep things brief. Most of these posts are huge so it'd be a pain to read otherwise. If you'd like one of your own posts from the Bad Webcomics thread to be included here, please let me know and provide a link! I'm just compiling my own stuff atm because there is a lot of it and it's less of a hassle than trying to compile all 6 months of discussion on this stuff.
Have you ever wondered what life would be like for a family of imaginary, nonbinary, schizophrenic glowing squirrels? Of course you have! Lucky for you, SaltNPepperBunny is here to provide some much-needed depiction of such a serious and deep topic.
"Schizos aren't insane actually" next, with bonus 2025 teaser included for it due to the almost certainly trans lesbian's gnarly "please refer to me as she and her thank you" line.
Pipe Up!'s review first since that's what everyone cares about. Lol at that "sympathetic ableist" bit. Also, what "support from the plural community" is she talking about? I'm too scared to go looking for myself, but are """plurals""" actually shilling this shit?
There aren't enough words in the English language to describe everything wrong with this SINGLE PAGE, but let me give it my best shot. This shit has made my day.
I've been considering [a lolcow thread] on SNP as a whole, but she really doesn't have enough content outside her comics to warrant it. A lot of it would be going "look at how incredibly stupid and dangerous her writing is" over and over again without much focus on the author herself because she mostly sticks to Comicfury and the Nuzlocke Forums (both places that would do much better off with threads of their own instead of as containment for SNP).
If she does something particularly outrageous (say, acts on that constant underage flirting she's putting in Pipe Up!) then I won't hesitate, but for now this thread is probably a better place to put it.
Exactly. She has the lack of self reflection that partly characterizes a cow, but she doesn't have the same violent or attention-seeking tendencies to a pointfrom what I understand, normal people don't loudly post about romantic relationships and subsequent break-ups without wanting sympathy that would make her actually worthy of a thread. Maybe if she gets too overwhelmed by the 4 comics she's currently working on while something else also happens to her that might change, but I think (at least for now) that she won't crack publicly enough to warrant a thread.
I can definitely see it happening. SNP had been posting about "the warren" on her DA since over half a year before the comic came out and has been generally hyped for this story specifically. Knowing how she functions I doubt she'll break down in public or anything, but it will most definitely affect her.
It probably doesn't help that she seems to have broken up with her """queerplatonic""" lover earlier this year.
People still make Nuzlocke comics? I thought that died somewhere in the 2010's. If it inserts weird stuff about Pokemon being trans I'm wondering if it should have stayed dead.
Children of the Light sounds like a cult that popped up in the 70's. Without looking at the actual comic I'm going to assume I'm not far off.
There's also ANOTHER comic, named "the things we have" which is about a rabbit being sad it's friend got ran over and a bunch of other ones hating them because they lost their soul from screaming over it (metaphorically or literally, I don't fuckin know) I don't have much in depth to say, because the "woe is me" vibe was so fucking insufferable combined with the artstyle I couldn't power through it like Pipe Up or even Children Of The Light.
Okay when I saw that Pipe Up had the protagonist have a Pluralkit conversation with himself in the first few pages I couldn't stop laughing. I actually decided to read start to finish for that.
Apparently the author had a sensitivity reader for the comic so I assume she's not claiming to be DID/"plural" herself, which is even more interesting. Givin the contents, getting informed by someone who is most certainly muchansens by internet sure is something.
I love how the characters have to shout and argue every five minutes, which is unrealistic even for school children. (Aside from the mental illness/lgbtqwerty stuff)
There's also ANOTHER comic, named "the things we have" which is about a rabbit being sad it's friend got ran over and a bunch of other ones hating them because they lost their soul from screaming over it (metaphorically or literally, I don't fuckin know) I don't have much in depth to say, because the "woe is me" vibe was so fucking insufferable combined with the artstyle I couldn't power through it like Pipe Up or even Children Of The Light. View attachment 7128359View attachment 7128367
oh god, right, I blocked this one out of my brain at a certain point because reading it was just absolutely miserable lol. It’s clear that it was made more as a coping method for the author rather than any kind of story with a message, and I’m not sure why she published it. Money, I guess.
Either way, it’s a huge outlier from her other comics in many ways (mostly dark tone, no real messaging, complete absence of lgbt themes, not ongoing) so I doubt it’ll be talked about here much anyways. The most important part about it might be the huge, enormously TMI post she made for its first-year anniversary.
Yep, she’s basically just a “neurotypical” god I hate that term woman trying to speak for actual fucking crazies because she worked at an institution once and thought that the people there got a bad rap for no reason. Given that being an actual fucking crazy is unique and special now, she has resorted to consulting the poseurs for “authentic representation“ so as not to break her weird rose-tinted glasses on the subject while keeping things “respectful.”
This is the “system” she’s consulting. Assuming the diagnosis wasn’t given by a quack (VERY HARD TO BELIEVE given the pronouns and favorites section) this guy isn’t actually a poseur, but given that he has basically no posts on any of his profiles, I can’t really tell. I’m guessing he DFE’d during all the Musk tantruming and mostly lives on Discord now.
Yep, she’s basically just a “neurotypical” god I hate that term woman trying to speak for actual fucking crazies because she worked at an institution once and thought that the people there got a bad rap for no reason.
I KNEW I got the vibe that she was just a bored neurotypical chick on the internet who assumed herself to be a mental health guru because she knows how to use Google and Tumblr and has never even met a real autist, but the fact that instead of any actual study and/or research to understand what she's talking about, she just consults a singular stranger on Discord who's probably a liar, tanks any respect that could theoretically be had for Pipe Up.
It’s making me think of all those sad-edgy drawings I’ve seen on Deviantart as a teenager, and Deviantart cringe compilations as an adult. CRAWWWWWLING IIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIN, THESE WOUNDS THEY WILLLLL NOT HEEEEAAAALLL…
According to @Anonitolia the author is in her 30's... I can't find her age from a quick glance, honestly there's a lot of stuff that I'd have to sit down for. I honestly thought it was from someone going through an edgy teenage phase as well.
Fun fact: Overt Dissociative Identity Disorder (where alternate identities act in a dramatically different fashion like what' shown in Pipe Up) is apparently very rare among actual sufferers.
I'm interested to see where this will go. Will Percy invent more personalities until he gets bored of it and moves onto a different disorder? Will Kai tolerate it or will he move on and find someone less melodramatic?
Funnily enough, this is also a very good way to tell when an artist has same-species syndrome. If the artist is drawing everything like a dog, your best way of finding out is by looking at how said author would draw a Sneasel, Espeon, Mightyena, and Growlithe side by side.
nah, if it was it wouldn't be worth mocking. Edgy kids will be edgy kids, but when an actual adult is writing shit like this and truly believes it's doing people a service then it deserves scorn.
I think the easiest way to tell when an artist has BAD same face/body syndrome is when they try to draw Pokemon, because what the hell is this thing? View attachment 7131411
Yeah, it is.
There are so many things wrong with that design. The eyes being open, the skinniness, the face, the fists being too small (especially for a fighting type). It's like some kind of Makuhita that hatched wrong.
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Funnily enough, this is also a very good way to tell when an artist has same-species syndrome. If the artist is drawing everything like a dog, your best way of finding out is by looking at how said author would draw a Sneasel, Espeon, Mightyena, and Growlithe side by side.
Does anyone have that one chart that shows a wolf, dog, cat, tiger, snake, dragon, etc. being drawn the same? Didn't realize you could apply that to Pokemon.
Does anyone have that one chart that shows a wolf, dog, cat, tiger, snake, dragon, etc. being drawn the same? Didn't realize you could apply that to Pokemon.
It took her several hundred pages to get to the second badge? How can someone write this much filler? WTF was she writing about that it took so long to get there?
It took her several hundred pages to get to the second badge? How can someone write this much filler? WTF was she writing about that it took so long to get there?
Wait, if there's no humans in the Pokemon comic, who the hell's giving them badges and shit, especially if it's Nuzlocke? Are they just beating people up and taking badges from them? Because based on the way SNP draws even fighting types like they're just rabbits or they took Ozempic, there's no way any character here would throw or take so much as a punch without several pages of everyone crying about it.
Nuzlockes actually predate Minecraft hardcore, as crazy as it might sound. But you are right, the main rule of Nuzlocke is releasing a Pokémon after it faints. The only other rule that is consistent and comes from the first Nuzlocke is you can only catch the first Pokémon you encounter on a new route. It makes little sense for a Nuzlocke comic to only feature Pokémon and not humans, as battles are to death, so you would have to loot a dead body to get your badge.
