Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

It's amazing how powerful she is, and yet, despite this, she actually doesn't really matter. If Rey Sue was removed entirely from NuWars, the movies would all objectively be better not much would change plotwise. She just appears whenever the NuRebels are written into a corner, she solves the problem perfectly, and then vanishes from the film again.
Did they need her to move the mountain? (no)
Did they need the falcon to save the rebels (yes but Chewie could have done it)
Did her actions influence luke to leave the planet (Maybe.....but Lukes showing up didnt really do anything)
Did her team up with Kylo accomplish anything (No Kylo wanted to break up the team)
Did she do anything in the last movie that pushes the plot (no)

Now talk about Finn and Poe....hell, even Rose
 
oseph Campbell was one of many, many media theorists, who sadly went mainstream. Why not the ATU index, or Polti, or Propp? Now people on writing,stackexchange are asking questions like "can the villain win" and get "no! never! this is against the law!" as the top upvoted answer.

I'm afraid because, well, I've not read them. Only Campbell and Postman and a bit of MacLuhan. Tried Hofstadter and couldn't make heads nor tails of him, sadly. Not exactly the same thing, but Godel Escher Bach always seems to come up in the conversations of this type for some reason. Guess I'm condemned to be the accountant by training I in fact am for all time. 🤷‍♂️
 
So new Disney Wars bullshit is finally coming in from New York Comic Con today. Aside from a lot of Funko Pop crap, something was teased called "PROJECT LUMINOUS". No idea what that's about but I assume that like with Project Blue Milk, its probably some shitty new anthology of more pointless novels they will be releasing next year since a lot of novels were talked about at the event.
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Then again, something about it bothers me more than usual. The screen describes what the Force is according to Yoda and old lore "Force is all living things etc etc... Until..." Until what? "Project Luminous". So they're going to change the very nature of the Force now? Are they going to put midichlorians to shame? Do we finally get confirmation of the Force is Female? Oh great. The project is headed by Claudia Gray, Holdo's co-creator and writer of powerful feminist SW novels, like MasterxPadawan.

Among some of the announced books is a shitty Clone Wars anthology novel collection rather than more episode adaptations, Kylo Ren anthology novel collection and the IX novelization coming out March 3.
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This Kylo Ren one was leaked months ago but now there's a cover and he's even uglier than before. The story is basically about getting inside "Dear Sweet Ben-Ben Solo's head" while finding out his entire life story...

And a spinoff story by Caitlin Kennedy called R2 is Lost because Kennedy just has to put her progeny in the limelight.
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Also Vader is getting another new comic series because he's the only thing that sells, and SW comics will be relaunching under the ESB timeline...

And they've announced another Thrawn trilogy of novels starting in May about the Chiss Ascendancy.
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Oh boy. More soulless cashgrabs about a character who's become a useless shadow of what he used to be. Like who even cares about Thrawn anymore? He's not some legendary badass who almost conquers the galaxy and faces off against Luke and the gang. He's some loser who kept fucking up against a small band of loser rebels and "died" a loser's death thanks to Space Aladdin, the Space Whales and the Space Moose.

And here's the most insulting one.
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Its a manga adaptation of a TLJ tie-in novel about Luke Skywalker as told by the jedi/horsepen kids on Canto Bight from TLJ.
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In the novel, the kids gather together in the horse cage and discuss whether or not Luke Skywalker exists, who the majority of people think is just a myth. So the kids tell a bunch of made up myths and stories about Luke and his exploits then a talking flea coincidentally shows up and tells them he was with Luke and the gang the whole time and tells the kids about the rescue of Han Solo. Apparently Luke is also considered a lying conman by those who do think he exists... Yet they treat this book as if it honors Luke despite that only a small few and some slave kids actually remember him and now they wanna make a manga out of it... Just what the fuck is going through their minds to make so many dumb decisions? Hell I've even seen some optimistic boobs discussing this and thinking its going to be an adaptation of Luke's pre-Disney/Legends adventures. Also Leia, a major figure in the Republic for years couldn't be arsed to tell people who her brother was on the news? Or erect a statue of him on New Alderaan (which still exists in Disney canon) or something?

Also some pic was shown of Rey copying Luke's pose from the original ANH poster. This bitch really has nothing original to offer other than being a better female version of Luke and Leia combined. Might as well call her Reya Skywalker (Do not steal) while we're at it.

All this garbage seems to show is that even if IX fails, Disney has no plans of improving themselves. They'll just keep going about it business as usual while learning nothing to appease investors. This level of overconfident smug faggotry is almost sickening.
 
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Are Porgs still a thing? Seems I haven't heard anything about them since Ep 8 was shat out
There's some middle-aged moms and winos that lie about liking them, but my experience is that even these shitheads don't buy the merch.
So new Disney Wars bullshit is finally coming in from New York Comic Con today. Aside from a lot of Funko Pop crap, something was teased called "PROJECT LUMINOUS". No idea what that's about but I assume that like with Project Blue tard cum, its probably some shitty new anthology of more pointless novels they will be releasing next year since a lot of novels were talked about at the event.
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Then again, something about it bothers me more than usual. The screen describes what the Force is according to Yoda and old lore "Force is all living things etc etc... Until..." Until what? "Project Luminous". So they're going to change the very nature of the Force now? Are they going to put midichlorians to shame? Do we finally get confirmation of the Force is Female? Oh great. The project is headed by Claudia Gray, Holdo's co-creator and writer of powerful feminist SW novels, like MasterxPadawan.

Among some of the announced books is a shitty Clone Wars anthology novel collection rather than more episode adaptations, Kylo Ren anthology novel collection and the IX novelization coming out March 3.
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This Kylo Ren one was leaked months ago but now there's a cover and he's even uglier than before. The story is basically about getting inside "Dear Sweet Ben-Ben Solo's head" while finding out his entire life story...

And a spinoff story by Caitlin Kennedy called R2 has Autism is Lost because Kennedy just has to put her progeny in the limelight.
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Also Vader is getting another new comic series because he's the only thing that sells, and SW comics will be relaunching under the ESB timeline...

And they've announced another Thrawn trilogy of novels starting in May about the Chiss Ascendancy.
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Oh boy. More soulless cashgrabs about a character whose become a useless shadow of what he used to be. Like who even cares about Thrawn anymore? He's not some legendary badass who almost conquers the galaxy and faces off against Luke and the gang. He's some loser who kept fucking up against a small band of loser rebels and "died" a loser's death thanks to Space Aladdin, the Space Whales and the Space Moose.

And here's the most insulting one.
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Its a manga adaptation of a TLJ tie-in novel about Luke Skywalker as told by the jedi/horsepen kids on Canto Bight from TLJ.
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In the novel, the kids gather together in the horse cage and discuss whether or not Luke Skywalker exists, who the majority of people think is just a myth. So the kids tell a bunch of made up myths and stories about Luke and his exploits then a talking flea coincidentally shows up and tells them he was with Luke and the gang the whole time and tells the kids about the rescue of Han Solo. Apparently Luke is also considered a lying conman by those who do think he exists... Yet they treat this book as if it honors Luke and now they wanna make a manga out of it... Just what the fuck is going through their minds to make so many dumb decisions? Hell I've even seen some optimistic boobs discussing this and thinking its going to be an adaptation of Luke's pre-Disney/Legends adventures.

Also some pic was shown of Rey copying Luke's pose from the original ANH poster. This bitch really has nothing original to offer other than being a better female version of Luke and Leia combined. Might as well call her Reya Skywalker (Do not steal) while we're at it.

All this garbage seems to show is that even if IX fails, Disney has no plans of improving themselves. They'll just keep going about it business as usual while learning nothing to appease investors. This level of overconfident smug faggotry is almost sickening.
I bet Disney's happy that books and comics are cheap, because all of the stupid pointless shit you describe and what they are spamming to lie to investors about their chances are going right to Ollies to moulder with the toys after costing them millions. Why Ollies though and not say a dumpster? Because even the fucking dump can't find a value for how worthless and toxic these pieces of shit are.

It's pathetic that they can't just admit they fucked up and they will let the franchise rest a while before trying again.
 
Thing is, anime and manga have so many strong and independent (and I mean actually strong and independent) female characters. Pretty much every female protagonist Kota Hirano (Hellsing, Drifters) or Rei Hiroe (Black Lagoon) have ever made.
Then there's Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell, Balsa from Guardian of the Sacred Spirit and so on. For being the most misogynistic medium in the most chauvinistic nation, there's no shortage of awesome heroines that kick ass and take names.
Sapphire from Osamu Tezuka's Princess Knight is the granddaddy of the strong independent woman in manga and anime. For a chauvinistic nation creating these heroines since the early 50ies it saids a lot. U.S.A. and Europe were creating heroines even longer but for the U.S. corporate overlords to flush away 70-80 years of progress for their replacements like Korra and nuShe-Ra is to say the least embarrassing
 
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super wizard sam hyde, after reaching the age of 30 and still haven't had sex wtih a woman (female), obtains his wand and just attaches it to his ak, says "time to visit the american department of magic"
You know, the mental image of combat wizards wielding Assault Rifles with magic wands attached to the muzzle like a bajonett is such a ridiculous idea that it's actually totally awesome. Could be the foundation for a really cool schlock movie.

the power levels just keep climbing higher and higher and higher, and the stakes go from fighting a superweapon to a ragtag group saving the Galaxy to stopping fucking time travel Palpatine from killing everyone across time and space... and yet nothing's changed.
I have to disagree, the stakes actually feel considerably lower in TLJ than in TFA. In TFA, the big goal is to destroy a superweapon, that annihilates entire star systems... in TLJ, the goal is to find a gas station or something.

Sad news fellas

Diahann Carroll, best known as the waifu/cyberfleshlight Chewbacca's senile father, passed away today

Let us think back to that beautiful epoch...that happy and innocent age when people were naive enough to think *this* was the worst thing to ever happen to star wars...
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Good night sweet cyber-th0t. May sprays of wookie jizz lull you to your sleep...
RIP, weirdly sexual lady.
I would love to know what the creators thought when they made that segment...

From what I understand, Han the Porg will be in the movie to some small extent since one of the "Journey to IX" comics is about the Porg becoming nu-Chewie's official partner and beloved by everyone.
Now, won't that be an amazing sight for sore eyes in theatres across the globe? Chewie will stride around with his Porg friend in a Han Solo vest waddling along. That'll really please audiences. I hope there'll be some light-hearted jokes about Han being dead and replaced by a porg.
Audiences won't know what hit them, once they are forced to watch something this offensive and stupid out of the blue.

Some at the time had doubts and said it was only a placeholder color due to the colormap on his chest, but it looks like this really is his final color...
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I know, at this point it's kind of moot to ask, but what's wrong with these people? Can't they take a short look at these designs and just realize how atrocious they are?

You can't write a story about an omnipotent being overcoming adversity, the nature of omnipotence means that it is impossible for them to be stymied by a physical force.
You can't write a story about such a character struggling to overcome adversity, but you can still write compelling stories about such characters if you're smart.
One Punch Man is a great example.

She hasnt had a situation where she had to try
Oh come on, she almost had an emotion when she lifted around 50 metric tons of solid rock on her first attempt. Granted that "almost an emotion" was her going "Oh, so this is something I can do now? That's kinda neat, I guess, whatever".
I swear to god, she could kill a guy by just pointing her finger at him and go "pew pew".

Until Rey Sue picked up half a fucking mountain by herself in TLJ, she was never really involved with the Discount Rebellion. She just moved JJ-8 to the Falcon and flew it in a random direction, just fucking happening to get where she needed to be. She then did basically jack shit for the rest of the film, only slapping away Kylo in a display of Suedom before doing nothing as the JJ Star was blown up. In TLJ she's even more divorced from the real plot, doing basically nothing until she goes onto the Nu-Executor, where she has her Sue moment with Snoke and fights some guards. She then is told she was made by nobodies and then fucks off to only shoot down three TIE fighters at once on NuHoth. She then does jack shit.
You know, I never really thought about it like this. TFA and TLJ fail for many reasons, one of which is that the characters never really experience anything together, there is almost no banter or situations that they overcome as a team... Poe is gone for 75% of the movie, Finn and Rey have a few moments... but that soon stops. In TLJ, everyone goes off on their own adventure and instead of camaraderie and teamwork, we get . . . ugh . . . Rose Tico.
The other: Rey has little involvement in this story as a whole. I mean, with TLJ's plotlines all going nowhere, that's true for all of the characters...

She only mattered to Snoke as a way to find Skywalker which....well....he did fuckall with.
In TFA Snoke wants Kylo to bring Rey to him . . . but thanks to Ruin, that never mattered, since Rey is the daughter of some nobodies, but that was a movie ago and is no longer true. Now, she's the granddaughter of Palpatine or something, so I guess it will now make sense?
Who am I kidding, they'll most likely fuck that up, too.

I feel bad for Zahn, he's forced to write a Disney version of his character.


Inb4 it's about Orange Yoda (friendly reminder that she's supposed to be older than Yoda).
It's gonna be about how Orange Yoda was a Jedi Master on Coruscant before Palpatine took over, but then she quit, cause she was only earning 80% of what Yoda did. It will also show us a young Yoda during his frat-days on Padawan college, where he drunkenly tries to get into the pants of some girl, but recoils in horror when he grabs her crotch and has a bit of a pickle surprise, cause -y'know- Yoda is not only a chauvinist, but he's also a bigot who hates LGBTWORDSALAD+.
The movie will then show how she helped save a shitton of lives during the Clone Wars and the Civil War, for instance, she'll be the one shutting down the Trash Compactor that Luke, Han and Leia were in.

Cringe all you want, you know that is a likely plot for nuWars spin-offs.

It's pathetic that they can't just admit they fucked up and they will let the franchise rest a while before trying again.
Sunk Cost Fallacy, I guess.

Why Ollies though and not say a dumpster? Because even the fucking dump can't find a value for how worthless and toxic these pieces of shit are.
Toxic waste usually has to be disposed of by a special company.
 
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So Poe's a jedi warrior now according to NYCC2019 merch? When did this happen? Was he confirmed to be a jedi in a shitty spinoff novel no one read or something?
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They're also making a sequel to BLTQIABBQTTAAQ Squadron Alphabet Squadron which I talked about before in this thread.
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I still find it funny how they said the Vader and SW comics would end soon (to boost sales) only to bring them back in March, yet Dr. Aphra is nowhere in sight.

Also while I haven't been interested in South Park for what feels like a decade, they made jabs at Disney/SW again.
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Also here's a full view Rose's new look...
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Also here's a full view Rose's new look...
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Wouldn't you know it, she suddenly looks a whole lot better.
I mean, she looks like she's a North Korean Border Guard, but at least she doesn't look like a garbage-bag with anime hair.

Funny thing is, if they completely rewrite her and have her act out of character, she might actually be worthwhile. They'll have to keep her low profile to appease those that hated her in TLJ, but since she's now written by someone else, she might have had potential. Well, that's the way the fortune cookie crumbles, I guess.
 
You know, the mental image of combat wizards wielding Assault Rifles with magic wands attached to the muzzle like a bajonett is such a ridiculous idea that it's actually totally awesome. Could be the foundation for a really cool schlock movie.


I have to disagree, the stakes actually feel considerably lower in TLJ than in TFA. In TFA, the big goal is to destroy a superweapon, that annihilates entire star systems... in TLJ, the goal is to find a gas station or something.


Now, won't that be an amazing sight for sore eyes in theatres across the globe? Chewie will stride around with his Porg friend in a Han Solo vest waddling along. That'll really please audiences. I hope there'll be some light-hearted jokes about Han being dead and replaced by a porg.
Audiences won't know what hit them, once they are forced to watch something this offensive and stupid out of the blue.


I know, at this point it's kind of moot to ask, but what's wrong with these people? Can't they take a short look at these designs and just realize how atrocious they are?


You can't write a story about such a character struggling to overcome adversity, but you can still write compelling stories about such characters if you're smart.
One Punch Man is a great example.


Oh come on, she almost had an emotion when she lifted around 50 metric tons of solid rock on her first attempt. Granted that "almost an emotion" was her going "Oh, so this is something I can do now? That's kinda neat, I guess, whatever".
I swear to god, she could kill a guy by just pointing her finger at him and go "pew pew".
Since I don't know how to break up quotes into little bits, I'll just number everything instead

1: That sounds hilariously stupid and I would totally watch Wizard Cops. Magic becomes a thing in the 1980s and it's up to two inner city wizards to stamp out crime in Detroit. Featuring tons of dark humor and racist jokes. One argument in the squad car is about whether pointing the wand sideways is more intimidating.

2: I feel like, kind of yes, and kind of no. In TFA, at least there was something of a concept of reinforcements and a fleet, but in TLJ, it became "OH NOES THE REBELS ARE OUT OF GAS AND WILL ALL DIE" more or less.

3: Well of course Disney is going to take a big fat shit on Ford. He's a white man, after all.

4: SJWism

5: Yes you can make a story about an omnipotent character. I even laid the groundwork for such an example in a shitpost in this forum. But the story, by necessity must acknowledge the omnipotence of the omnipotent character. If it doesn't, then the story fails.

6: Rey Sue has fired a blaster or blaster-like weapon three times in total. She got four kills from these. 1 shot was missed (by a comical margin, so it wasn't that she tried), the next shot hit dead on, and the third shot in TLJ knocked three TIE fighters out of the air at once. If she holds literally anything, it's a lethal weapon in her hands.
 
Thing is, anime and manga have so many strong and independent (and I mean actually strong and independent) female characters. Pretty much every female protagonist Kota Hirano (Hellsing, Drifters) or Rei Hiroe (Black Lagoon) have ever made.
Then there's Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell, Balsa from Guardian of the Sacred Spirit and so on. For being the most misogynistic medium in the most chauvinistic nation, there's no shortage of awesome heroines that kick ass and take names.

Anime/manga are perfect examples of how to do female protagonists well.

Sad news fellas

Diahann Carroll, best known as the waifu/cyberfleshlight Chewbacca's senile father, passed away today

Let us think back to that beautiful epoch...that happy and innocent age when people were naive enough to think *this* was the worst thing to ever happen to star wars...
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Good night sweet cyber-th0t. May sprays of wookie jizz lull you to your sleep...

I'm sorry to hear that she passed away, but lmao at this gif of Itchy getting his freak on.

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So Poe's a jedi warrior now according to NYCC2019 merch? When did this happen? Was he confirmed to be a jedi in a shitty spinoff novel no one read or something?
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They're also making a sequel to BLTQIABBQTTAAQ Squadron Alphabet Squadron which I talked about before in this thread.
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I still find it funny how they said the Vader and SW comics would end soon (to boost sales) only to bring them back in March, yet Dr. Aphra is nowhere in sight.

Also while I haven't been interested in South Park for what feels like a decade, they made jabs at Disney/SW again.
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Also here's a full view Rose's new look...
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What the fuck? Why is Poe now a Jedi warrior? Did Disney belatedly realise that killing off the incredibly merchandisable order of warrior-monks just to fuel Ruin's subversion fantasy was actually a bad idea? Whodunthunkit?

You're two years too late for that, Rat.
 
Ender's Game was a fuckload about a dumbass Gary Stu in space, who's a fucking super prodigy and shit, yet his 'amazing' tactics are basic as Hell, and all of his wit was something that I could easily have matched at his age. But he's a 'badass' who... killed a fly while on earth and knocked a bully into a sharp object once. He also saves a totally genocidal alien swarm because 'they were just misunderstood'. His primary emotional response to things is bawling like a bitch, yet everyone applauds his bravery. His Sue siblings also managed to spread a pseudo-fascist political thought across a heavily censored(?) post internet and became world famous, with Ender's older brother becoming the literal King of the world with unlimited power: and he doesn't even abuse it!

And there was the trippy shit where he 'breaks' the game and that giant's corpse is just rotting in virtual space that doesn't seem to matter to anything...which the aliens tried to replicate somehow?

Fuck, Ender's Game doesn't really make sense.

In the novel, the kids gather together in the horse cage and discuss whether or not Luke Skywalker exists, who the majority of people think is just a myth. So the kids tell a bunch of made up myths and stories about Luke and his exploits then a talking flea coincidentally shows up and tells them he was with Luke and the gang the whole time and tells the kids about the rescue of Han Solo. Apparently Luke is also considered a lying conman by those who do think he exists... Yet they treat this book as if it honors Luke despite that only a small few and some slave kids actually remember him and now they wanna make a manga out of it... Just what the fuck is going through their minds to make so many dumb decisions? Hell I've even seen some optimistic boobs discussing this and thinking its going to be an adaptation of Luke's pre-Disney/Legends adventures. Also Leia, a major figure in the Republic for years couldn't be arsed to tell people who her brother was on the news? Or erect a statue of him on New Alderaan (which still exists in Disney canon) or something?

Sounds like that one episode of Samurai Jack where Aku tries to convince all the kids in the city that he's the hero and Jack's the evil one and repeatedly, hilariously, fails, ultimately ragequiting and the kids end up making up their own story of Jack defeating Aku instead.

Except here it's all shit. IT'S ALL SHIT.

Also here's a full view Rose's new look...
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Take away the gun and she looks like my grandmother from the 1950s.
 
Sorry for double posting but...this is D-0
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LITERALLY A FUCKING HAIRDRYER ON A WHEEL.

This is what droids are now, people. BB-8 was passable if only because I thought it was innovative how all the astromech tools could be accessed by rotating the ball, but...this thing looks like they took fucking CLAPTRAP and replaced his entire body with a megaphone with the handle broken off.
 
Sorry for double posting but...this is D-0
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LITERALLY A FUCKING HAIRDRYER ON A WHEEL.

This is what droids are now, people. BB-8 was passable if only because I thought it was innovative how all the astromech tools could be accessed by rotating the ball, but...this thing looks like they took fucking CLAPTRAP and replaced his entire body with a megaphone with the handle broken off.
Is he even functional as a droid? Like does he have the normal droid tools like BB-8 and R2-D2 or is he literally just a hair dryer on wheels?
 
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