Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Revo]

From BBC news website....

Why some NHS workers are wearing bin bags

One intensive care doctor describes the reality faced by some UK health workers on the front line.

www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus: The NHS workers wearing bin bags as protection (Archive)

Positive news always first: once again, here you have a bunch of people getting tired of waiting for the government to save them and taking matters into their own hands:

More videos below. But first, here's a fucking dumbass:

And this is him in a couple of weeks.

Positive news always first: once again, here you have a bunch of people getting tired of waiting for the government to save them and taking matters into their own hands:

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

But first, here's a fucking dumbass:

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

this is him in a couple of weeks (Archive)

So I was reading the Twitter exchange that was posted in the thread here and came across this:

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What's the sensitive content? Let's look:
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Twitter is careful not to offend the Chinese Communist Party. I'm not surprised, just disgusted.

Zao's tweet: Source (Archive)

Ordered a pack of these today to hand out to my closest neighbors:

Nine Line Daily Face Cover [10 Pk]

Please Note: Not A Medical Grade Face Mask Per the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommendation regarding health care professionals (HCPs) use of homemade masks: HCP use of homemade masks: In settings where facemasks are not available, HCP might use homemade masks (e.g., bandanna, scarf) for...

www.ninelineapparel.com

Made in America, veteran owned, and the masks are being sold at cost. I figure $10 is worth it to further build rapport with the people that live within shouting distance of me. We already look out for each other in a myriad of ways and this seems like a small but thoughtful way to say thanks.

Nine Line Daily Face Cover [10 Pk] (Archive)

I've seen put forth on places like 4chan /pol/ the idea that the weird "flu" that a lot of us suffered from in the fall or early winter might have been a milder form of COVID-19 that arrived on the west coast before the CDC was even aware of it but now that idea seems to be getting traction from some scientists and the mainstream media.

New California antibody study could point to possible herd immunity to COVID-19

The hypothesis that COVID-19 first started spreading in California in the fall of 2019 is one explanation for the state's lower than expected case numbers.

www.ksbw.com

Supposedly, it might have arrived in California in September 2019 and would likely have spread in North America beyond California by December, when my brother visited from Vancouver. I became ill in early January, around a week after he left and the illness stuck around for weeks. It was a very strange "flu" because I had a high fever but wasn't all that congested.

New California antibody study could point to possible herd immunity to COVID-19 (Archive)

150K Brits will die during pandemic through violence and suicide

A tentative estimate circulating in Whitehall suggests a six-figure death toll from a long-term lockdown, caused by a spike in suicides and domestic violence.

www.dailymail.co.uk

To be fair, it's Britain, so I'm not too surprised. How long until we start hearing shit like this in America though?

150K Brits will die during pandemic through violence and suicide (Archive)

China says they wont consider cats & dogs food anymore. X X X xxxxxxxx

Chinese government reveals draft list of animals which can be farmed for meat

The Chinese government has issued a new draft list of livestock that can be farmed for meat in the wake of the coronavirus epidemic, which is suspected to have originated from wild animals in a Wuhan wet market.

www.cnn.com

Chinese government reveals draft list of animals which can be farmed for meat (Archive)

The black Surgeon General of the US is racist for telling blacks to stop drinking and smoking. Also used the phrase "big momma" which sent a "reporter" into a tizzy. A very large number of black people are dying and certain behaviors directly affect the ability to survive infection but giving out sound medical advice, even if you have a medical degree and you are black, is some sort racist crime now.

If Obama had said the same thing the outrage mob wouldn't even say boo. Of course this all on Twatter so it's probably a nothingburger.

Surgeon general under fire for 'offensive' comments

Surgeon General Jerome Adams is under fire for 'pandering' to the black community and for his 'offensive' instruction to stop drinking and smoking during this pandemic.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Surgeon general under fire for 'offensive' comments (Archive)

Coronavirus vaccine may be six months away, lead researcher says

A COVID-19 vaccine may be six months away, according to researcher leading a team of scientists in England. “I think there’s a high chance that it will work based on other things that w…

nypost.com

“I think there’s a high chance that it will work based on other things that we have done with this type of vaccine,” Sarah Gilbert, a professor of virology at Oxford told The Times of London. “It’s not just a hunch and as every week goes by we have more data to look at. I would go for 80 percent, that’s my personal view.”

This would be great if it works out but it's a short article that doesn't say whether the 6 months would be for the vaccine to be proven or if it would be proven and manufactured for people to start getting it. It's probably too good to be true though and we'll just get the coof before the vaccine.

Coronavirus vaccine is six months away lead researcher says (Archive)
“I think there’s a high chance that it will work based on other things that we have done with this type of vaccine,” Sarah Gilbert, a professor of virology at Oxford told The Times of London (Archive).

Shitposting Savant on Twitter

“Here is your order of masks from Hoo Flung Poo manufacturing in Wuhan China. Please enjoy! No refunds or returns. https://t.co/FY8zs8Xoya”

twitter.com

when will the west learn to not buy medical supplies from china? first they only sent defective tests and the masks that were to shit for even them to use but now they're not even sending that now they just send boxes of cut up paper pretending it's masks. they're going full Bernie "no refunds"

Archive of Savant tweet: text archive + video archive

The US has indeed released pathogens and more into its cities. And done other skeevey things. No one went to prison; however, this does not absolve the CCP from responsibility, criticism or punishment.

The US has indeed released pathogens and more into its cities (Archive)

To be fair, the USA has done disease experiments on large populations for centuries.

Unethical human experimentation in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That isn't even counting the US military where the experiments are done on soldiers in secret and never exposed.

Unethical human experimentation in the United States (Archive)
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[Allanon]

The funny thing about the doomer stuff both in this thread and pushed by the MSM is that the more it gets pushed, the more rapidly public concern for the matter drops. You can only make people worry so much about something before nihilistic disregard or resignation kicks in. For the unstable members of society that means murder and/or suicide, but for the stable ones, it means going back to business as usual. If you want people to listen to the quarantines and behave, then you have to give them hope. Say 'in a short time we'll turn everything back on, by Summer we'll have a vaccine, if you just stay inside for a couple of months everything will be fine' and people will steel themselves and muddle through for the most part. Say 'A vaccine could be a year or two off, if ever, we'll never be immune to this and reinfections will just keep raging on, quarantines could last until late-fall at least, life may never be the same and we'll live with this forever' and people will just stop listening and go back to living, because 'hiding forever' isn't an option, so the people who don't choose 'die immediately' will choose the only other option: 'carry on and pretend it doesn't exist, because there's nothing else to do'.

It's just human nature. People adapt. It isn't possible to keep them in a constant state of fear; you can only scare them for a little while before their mind finally catches up and says 'but I'm not dead of coof yet, and I need to work or I'll die of starvation instead'.

So...really, if MSM and the others want the population to play nice and behave, thus 'taking the virus seriously', they should let Trump and others continue to give rosy predictions about how it's going to play out because everyone's doing their part, and how this will pass soon enough as long as they behave. Not freak out and say he's speaking 'false hope' because he suggests millions won't die and the economy won't be shut down much longer.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

That isn't even counting the US military where the experiments are done on soldiers in secret and never exposed.

The UK has done some heinously awful shit too, particularly when it comes to NBC weapons.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200329040528/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porton_Down

This guy died when they tested sarin on him in 1953. The death was ruled unlawful 51 years later 2004 long after anyone was still alive to care and it's very hard to say that he gave informed consent to take part in the experiment that killed him.

It's the basis of this very dark sketch.

Still that's just normal levels of 50's NBC program fuckery. What I find bizarre is the way labs in China have released SARS, in the capital, twice in 2004 and it may well be that the 2020 pandemic was the result of another leak after that. It's just that you'd expect senior politicians who work in Beijing to have done something about the lab situation out of a simple sense of self-preservation and not allowed the lab to cover it up.

Mind you it doesn't seem like the media is at all interested in covering this. I guess it's because you can talk shit in UK and US press conferences every day and the governments will still let you in but if you try that shit in China your career as a journalist will be abruptly ended. You'll be declared Persona Non-Grata and kicked out of the country if foreign and if you're Chinese you'll just disappear. So I guess there's no real pressure on the politicians at the top of the Chinese system to do anything. Hell, they probably don't even know about it because the CCP's ability to nuke stories it doesn't like is so good.

 

[Smug Cat]

Protests have already grown from 3 dudes to several dozen in Ohio daily for DeWine's conferences, while hard numbers were not given there were enough yesterday that their chants were audible in the conference room. And DeWine has been one of the most open governors throughout this ordeal.

At SOME point a cop is going to try to give some dindus a ticket for violating social distancing and get capped because they're gang members. It's going to happen, then all bets are off. If not that, then the increasing uneasiness over bills coming due will boil over.

Humans were not meant to be isolated all day.

Even the relatively well-off people, the ones who have money/haven't lost their jobs/etc are starting to lose it. The idea that the economically devastated areas are just gonna sit tight with a smile until September or whatever is laughable.

 

[Aqua Panda]

May is going to be big. People are already really restless and most will not tolerate lock downs being pushed to June or July.

Also, the stimulus hitting people's accounts next week could go a few ways. It will save the asses of some lower end poor, but many will piss through the money within days on hookers and blow. Ive seen plenty of prostitutes working the street harder than normal; now that some are already getting the stimulus money early.

People WILL want to go out and use the money. That's going to lead to parties in certain neighborhoods. All it takes it one numbnut being a fool to throw a match on the powder keg.

If it does push into June/July then expect people to start getting desperate. Landlords will have to start kicking people in areas they can and many will begin defaulting on other payments as well. Decent chunks of the lower class will also be out of food money.

Edit: Once large portions of the population can't buy food. Shit is going to get real very quick.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

May is going to be big. People are already really restless and most will not tolerate lock downs being pushed to June or July.

Also, the stimulus hitting people's accounts next week could go a few ways. It will save the asses of some lower end poor, but many will piss through the money within days on hookers and blow. Ive seen plenty of prostitutes working the street harder than normal; now that some are already getting the stimulus money early.

People WILL want to go out and use the money. That's going to lead to parties in certain neighborhoods. All it takes it one numbnut being a fool to throw a match on the powder keg.

If it does push into June/July then expect people to start getting desperate. Landlords will have to start kicking people in areas they can and many will begin defaulting on other payments to. Decent chunks of the lower class will also be out of food money.

It's a really tough thing to balance. Obviously you need to get the economy going again, but you can't let everyone just go back to normal just yet.

Of course, with the way my stay at home has been enforced I doubt they're going to do anything at all.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Could it really be that a nasal swab can be entirely negative for material while deeper samples are positive? That could indicate that the primers are designed across a stretch that breaks down and fragments easily? I don’t know, it just seems like we are missing something fundamental. But this whole thing feels like that - like we are missing a part of the puzzle

That's probably why Quest keeps trying to get me to do BAL.

tbh at this point I feel like sending them a synth tip np that went up the patient's butthole.

 

[Green Man]

I think even beginning of June is optimistic. If we make it to May 1st without protests I'll be surprised. The death tolls are coming in way under what was modeled, and the rules keep getting stricter and more ridiculous. Either a cop is going to get caught on film pistol-whipping an old lady for sitting down in a park or someone's going to shoot at a politician and then things are going to go south. Alternatively, Netflix goes down for a day or two and the support for the lockdown goes right out the window.

There's already been groups of people protesting infront of Ohio's statehouse in Columbus, I'm sure it isn't all that different in quite a few other states. The group in Columbus was apparently 30-40 people protesting while the governor gave his daily briefing. As for me, I see the necessity of what the government is doing however I am still a bit concerned about the slippery slope effect of the folks in state/federal governments realizing the full extent of their power. Although that won't matter one bit if we all die of Yellow Plague. I'm really not sure what side I fall on, when it comes to that issue. On one hand, I see people bringing up valid concerns, but I also think it's retarded for people to get too het up over a change in lifestyle due to a crisis situation. I mean, during WWII people weren't exactly having a great time. Rationing food, a lot of things weren't being produced for public consumption so the resources could be redirected to the war effort, people in London had to go hunker down in the tunnels more days than not whenever the Luftwaffe decided to stop by. When they'd return topside, they'd often find that they were now homeless and everything they owned had been destroyed. In comparison, being asked to curtail recreational activities and limit your constant trips to go browse at Walmart for hours seems like nothing, or even just being asked to wear a mask and stop coughing and sneezing in other people's faces when you do go out and about. We've really got it pretty good compared to so many other crises throughout history. At least it's: "Hey would you guys mind being a NEET for a few months while we collectively sort this shit out?" rather than: "You can't have aluminum or green paint, we need it to build airplanes. By the way we're going to limit how much meat you can buy because we need to can it for the troops. Oh, by the way, your house was destroyed by a German air raid last night but here's a cot and some hardtack crackers."

Don't get me wrong, the concerns are valid and eventually we will need to figure this shit out and discuss it. I just think "I can't go hang out at the local Walmart for three hours or go to a basketball game" is a rather silly complaint in the face of all that's going on currently. Not to mention that it's only going to make this last longer. More people deciding fuck it and having a pick-up basketball game at the park anyway = more people getting infected = more strain on the medical systems and more consumption of very finite resources = it's going to take a lot longer for the eggheads to figure this shit out and come up with a viable treatment or solution = we'll see a hell of a lot more death and God forbid, it might be closer than you think.

But the majority of people aren't going to take it seriously until someone they know ends up on a ventilator or dies, and for their sake I hope that they don't have to learn this lesson like that. Crisis situations often require unpleasant changes to routine and lifestyle. It's going to require a lot of adjustment. One other thing to consider is that these restrictions are geared toward the lowest-common denominator. These are the people wandering around in pajamas at Walmart sneezing and coughing all over everything, the people who recruit the entire extended family and neighbors for a trip to the grocery store despite the ongoing pandemic. Realizing that most of our populace is sadly made up of these walking biological weapons, realistically we absolutely have to do something. The average person doesn't understand shit about contagion, cross-contamination, cytokine storms or any of that, and they don't give a fuck either. But until these orders have some teeth, a proposition I think the state governments are terrified of, these people aren't going to follow instructions anyway.

 

[Lurker69]

Coronavirus: Newborn babies given mini face shields to protect against Covid-19 at Bangkok hospital

Newborn babies at Bangkok hospital given mini face shields to protect against coronavirus

More than 2,400 cases reported in Thailand

www.independent.co.uk

http://archive.li/lswFr

 

[Allanon]

We don't actually 'need' the quarantine at all. As has been pointed out before, the pandemic isn't unprecedented, the response is.

 

[Otterly]

That's probably why Quest keeps trying to get me to do BAL.

Aerosols? What aerosols?
It does illustrate the theory vs practice divide doesn’t it? Lavage those lungs, baby, or the boys in the lab have to redesign their PCR...

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Video archives for April 10

Global Times on Twitter

“Zeng Guang, chief epidemiologist of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, said if the pandemic overseas cannot be controlled, there are two possibilities: #COVID19 could have originated from a place other than #Wuhan or foreign countries lack effective measures.”

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Global Times on Twitter

“A Chinese #mask supplier expects 18-month contract for 5-10 million #KN95 masks for export to #US. Insiders said until deal is signed, they cannot assure there will be adequate products for US, as more orders will come from EU. https://t.co/vmQ2cGs4OY”

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Global Times on Twitter

“Viruses only cause physical harm to the international system, but a chaotic, irresponsible, furious and impulsive US brings deep uncertainty. I fear that American democracy cannot help world peace and stability: Editor-in-Chief Hu Xijin #HuSays https://t.co/Pc1hxr9zyh”

twitter.com

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Tim Minchin blasts Scott Morrison's response to the coronavirus crisis and says he doesn't deserve credit because he's 'just taking advice from people'

Tim Minchin blasts Scott Morrison's response to coronavirus

The left-wing comedian released a song this week criticising the Prime Minister for going on holiday to Hawaii during the bushfire crisis and 'fumbling' in coronavirus press conferences.

www.dailymail.co.uk

http://archive.vn/3spLQ

(Tim Minchin's a butthurt lefty fag here who makes really bad songs.)

http://archive.vn/VGOlU

That archive doesn't work for videos, you need to download and re-upload,

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That would warrant a downgrade to trash then for sure. Must have missed that. Damn their good at manipulation.

On another note, someone put the Disturbed cover of "Sound of Silence" to images of empty city streets. Pretty good.

RIP Video Link. Copyright strike. Please post archives.

There's no way I'm going to go through the 50 pages I've skipped, but has anyone posted the recent CharlieBo313 videos?

No wonder blacks are being hit hard. I took a ride through my local ghetto last night around 8pm and there was a group of around 30 shirtless nigs playing b-ball at the courts.

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and remember

 

[Vecr]

We don't actually 'need' the quarantine at all. As has been pointed out before, the pandemic isn't unprecedented, the response is.

Well, yes, but people's tolerance for others around them just dropping dead has decreased quite a bit over the last ~200 years.

 

[RodgerDodger]

wonder if ISIS is going to surge during this, in times of crisis people always turn to religion so they might just catch a second wind and get big again.

Yeah but gathering to pray and put their fate in Gods hands is what has devestated Iran. Also licking the walls. You probably shouldn't lick any "holy" walls that other people are also licking.

 

[Otterly]

Don't Know if it's been here but there's a study making the rounds about the hemoglobin binding of covid

Well that’s interesting - looks like it is a blood issue after all.

 

[Wallace]

Well that’s interesting - looks like it is a blood issue after all.

Or both. A sudden drop in hemoglobin would exacerbate the respiratory distress from reduced lung function.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Alternatively, Netflix goes down for a day or two and the support for the lockdown goes right out the window.

If only there was someone who's been running a very highly used webserver on a shoestring for ages and really knows how to get the most out of a few thousand dollars of hardware they could hire.

Also, such a person might be willing to do a few free documentaries on subjects like Amberlynn Reid too...

 

[Burd Turglar]

In my opinion, should people in unhit/lightly-hit areas still be under house arrest as of 1 May, look for pushback to grow, and quickly. One size doesn't fit all. Sheltering-in-place needs to be done rationally instead of politically. Not voting for any local/county/state incumbents in November, but will, of course, vote to re-elect President Trump.

Just went to my local butcher/meat store to grab a sacrifice to the grill and that whole safer at home shit went right out the fucking window seeing as how it's finally shorts weather here. Saw several pick up games on the way, people walking everywhere and for the first time in over a month the butcher was fucking packed with idiots.

So I wouldn't necessarily call it push back, just americans don't give a shit.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

A sumo wrestler tested positive. Read that sumos are much healthier than deathfats due to much of that weight being muscle.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/sport/covid-19-japan-sumo-wrestler-tests-positive-postpone-tournament-12630928

Super duper archive

 

[Otterly]

Or both. A sudden drop in hemoglobin would exacerbate the respiratory distress from reduced lung function.

Yes definitely. There is viral lung attack, no doubt about that. How the two interact will be interesting to work out... the paper is very bioinformatics based - are we actually seeing this in patients?

Do you remember right at the start there was an image of blood vials and one was really dark? I wonder if they were actual samples or a stock photo?