Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[weegrumpy]

news from tartan town. Nhs in my area now entering second phase, good news, cancer, cardiology clinics are getting booted back up. cancer services back too.plans to get back to pre covid levels of consultations, but dunno how this can be achieved, with spacing in the waiting area. my deputy line manager had a stellar idea of alternating real consult of patients, and telecommunication appointments. G.Ps to get back to normal and provide more support in community.
screening and immunisations are already planned for next flu season, with the usual high risk being sorted first.
below Scottish gov's big brother plans which im in two minds about

 

[Turd Burglar]

A little (relevant) levity from West Virginia's governor on Monday, in chronological order. I didn't see it elsewhere in the thread so sorry if late.

I saved these to my computer because I'm a slow-in-the-mind and am having trouble archiving. Also, the briefing was glitching the whole time.

Spoiler: the incident

Spoiler: the recovery

Spoiler: the remix

 

[Revo]

Native American health center asked for COVID-19 supplies. It got body bags instead.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/native-american-health-center-asked-covid-19-supplies-they-got-n1200246

Fever, fatigue, fear: For some recovering COVID-19 patients, weeks of illness, uncertainty
Kate Porter has had a fever nearly every day for 50 days. She can't shake the extreme exhaustion that hit when she became infected with the coronavirus nearly two months ago.

The longevity of her symptoms are unlike anything she's ever experienced. "I know it sounds crazy," Porter said, "but is this permanent?"
Since her diagnosis, Porter, 35, has been in her Beverly, Massachusetts, home with her 12-year-old daughter, Adria, who also had symptoms of COVID-19.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fever-fatigue-fear-some-recovering-covid-19-patients-weeks-illness-n1197806

1. Native American health center asked for COVID-19 supplies. It got body bags instead. (Archive)
2.Fever, fatigue, fear: For some recovering COVID-19 patients, weeks of illness, uncertainty (Archive)

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We’re all so fucked.

Tom's tweet: Source (Archive)

I think such people are angling to justify post-lockdown measures such as mandatory contact tracking and turn current authoritarian licence into permanent authoritarian licence. They want lockdowns to last long enough and be harmful enough that people will accept greater state control and surveillance in return for ending them. People shouldn't accept it - they should say "lock us up or let us go; but don't tell us we can go if we let you arrest us for not having our phone on us."

I am rapidly growing very sick of the term "new normal".



Sweden seems to be ticking over alright but using it as an opportunity to kill off old people. Angry Foreigner is always an interesting source for things that don't make the mainstream Swedish media (most of which is paid for by State subsidies).

Sweden refusing to oxygen to patients who are too old:

https://www.angryforeigner.net/news/sweden-is-refusing-oxygen-to-old-patients-doctor-pleads-to-journalists-abroad

Sweden REFUSING Oxygen To Old Corona Patients - Doctor Calling For In…

archived 6 May 2020 11:39:29 UTC

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Swedish stats are not that reliable.

The Truth about Sweden's Corona Strategy is Staggering — SWEDEN REPORT

Nursing home staff and doctors are instructed to refuse oxygen gas, and not drive elderly infected to the hospital.

www.angryforeigner.net

The Truth about Sweden's Corona Strategy is Staggering — SWEDEN REPORT

archived 3 May 2020 15:39:07 UTC

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Old lady left to die by Swedish doctors. Worth a watch if you have a few minutes.

Old lady left to die by Swedish doctors. Worth a watch if you have a few minutes.

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

r/CoronavirusColorado - Colorado man who organized Anti-Quarantine/Open Carry Rally in Denver gets yelled at by his mom on live stream (Starts at 19:16)

457 votes and 141 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

Archive of Reddit post: https://archive.vn/lxerM

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

EU GDP forecasts for 2020

https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1257992181320728577

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Odd how Sweden is still projected to be hit hard despite their reputation of going light on lockdowns. Meanwhile my country, who cracked down among the earliest and hardest, might get away with the smallest impact.

Ed's tweet: Archive

Swedish Plan for elderly victims of the Coronavirus.

Swedish Plan for elderly victims of the Coronavirus.

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

Nicole Sirotek tearfully explaining how a NYC hospital is killing kung flu patients through medical mismanagement. youtube is censoring the video

Nicole Sirotek tearfully explaining how a NYC hospital is killing kung flu patients through medical mismanagement.

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

I had a feeling he would do this shit. In fact, judging by this new criteria, Long Island is probably going to be dead last. I still want a wall around NYC, that fucking plague pit.

Long Island is probably going to be dead last. (Archive)

This thread moves fast as always. So I'm going to talk about these cows, because what's Kiwifarms without cow sperging?
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They look like Retinto cows, which are bred in Cadiz. Indian cows look nothing like these enjoying themselves at the beach.
So yes, the photo is legit.

EDIT: found the source

https://twitter.com/vsjprendio/status/1247606730575556613

Archive
And another one, with more cows. The guy says they're vacas retintas, it seems my guess was right.

https://twitter.com/guillefdz85/status/1252128127180038144

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And another one, with more cows. The guy says they're vacas retintas, it seems my guess was right. (Archive)

btw it's Neil Ferguson, not Niall Ferguson, who is based and married to Ayaan Hirschi Ali, who is also based.

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His books are excellent. And I'm only pointing this out because I'm a sperg and lockdowns are fucking gay and unrealistic. Enjoy the rest of the thread.

1. based (Archive)
2. Prospect Magazine article linked : Source (Archive)
3. The Atlantic article linked : Source (Archive)
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Remember, archive everything !

 

[Barnard]

There isn't even any measure for "keeping up." If you've already tested the strong suspects and risk groups. And there's some spare for screening. Any spare. And the screening is coming back mostly negative. And the tests aren't made in china. Then it's more than enough. If the tests are chinese, then you might as well roll the fucking dice instead. If there's no spare it's not enough. And if the screening is coming mostly positive then boy do you have a much larger issue than you think... but yeah Poland's doing enough.

Instinctively, this sounds right. But given all the recent suggestions of much greater spread than confirmed in testing, or the antibody tests, I'm led to wonder what's going on. The issue is highly politicized over here, there are prominent politicians and medicine specialists on record saying that since our testing numbers per million are lower than in most countries around, we'll never know the true extent of the epidemic. And I admit, it's mildly infurtiating to know we're consistently not using the full capacity of our laboratories. But then some of them give Iceland as an example to follow, which is... er, not a very practical comparison? Just, come on.

All of Eastern Europe seems to have low rates just now.
My theory: There seems to have been a short period of time where the infection was seeded explosively and amplified in very specific areas. In Italy it was ski resorts. In the UK that was entry via Heathrow, and things like the Cheltenham (horse racing) festival. In sweden you see Stockholm hit hard but other cities which you’d think would be hit not doing as badly. My contact there says that each region has a slightly differently timed late winter sport break in Feb, like our half term break. Stockholm’s break coincided with the peak of transmission in the italian alp ski resorts. Other cities has theirs a week or two earlier and I think have had fewer of those initial seeding events.
What that says to me is that this may actually be less transmissible under some circumstances. We seem to be seeing areas which had travel during that critical late jan/mid Feb period hit the hardest. Eastern Europe may just have been lucky, or it may not have been as connected somehow during that critical period. Either way, fewer initial seeding cases got there during that period and then they shut down hard.
So I think what we are seeing is social distancing, Stopping mass gatherings and a few restrictions is enough to put the brakes on this thing. Lockdowns were not needed. I can understand why Italy did it, they were in a mess. But everywhere else, I will bet you that it’ll turn out to be a minor effect only. Stopping mass gatherings and basic hygiene/distancing will be the big ones.
It does raise the spectre of later infections in countries with low initial spread - i suspect this is one reason why Africa hasn’t been a hotbed so far. They’ve just not had that critical mass of travel to areas which were centres of infection during that critical period
I think it was @RodgerDodger a few pages back who said that they didn’t expect the route into America to be via Italy. Over here it’s more obvious in retrospect, because of that half term break where middle class families get package deals to the alps, but I wouldnt have flagged alpine resorts as being the amplification point for a virus from China at all.
I guess it shows how small areas can be huge drivers of infection. It’s going to be fascinating to retrace it all once it’s over.

What little I can tell you is that although our first case was "imported" from Germany, he was an anomaly; almost all other early cases could be traced back to Italy and I'm pretty sure the same is true for most other Central and Central-Eastern European countries (Belarus being a notable exception I think).

Now I can't speak for other countries, but in Poland, the winter break is staggered (with little rhyme or reason), going from mid-January to late February for various regions. After our own mountains, Italy is definitely the most popular destination for those who have some money available, and ever since welfare for families was introduced, there's been a huge uptick of families able to afford it. There does not seem to be any regional correlation between the timing of winter break and early growth of detected cases though. It's all tied to big cities and urban sprawl. My region has 1.25 million people and only 300 known cases, because it's a hole. Same for a number of similarly or much more populous voivodeships.

There's one special, funny case I'd like to mention. There's understandably quite a lot of mobility to and from Germany on our western border, which logically should mean people bringing the virus from over there (it's where our "patient zero" was detected). One region in particular is "trapped" between Germany, Silesia and Greater Poland (both of which have a lot of cases, relatively speaking). But this particular region still has less that a hundred detected infections. I've seen an interview with the head of a local infectious disease hospital suggesting it's possible they're already well past the peak, because there was a lot of odd, persistent infections in January and February. Odd stuff.

 

[Niggaplease]

I'm glad you prioritized those two items correctly.

Took a member of the silent generation out for the first time in two months, with doc approval and both of us were masked. Geriatric doctors are seeing a decline in their patients because of these quarantines/lockdowns. Lack of exercise, routine, social interaction, etc. has had a negative impact on their health physically and mentally. It makes me wonder if "saving" their lives may end up shortening them in the long run.

The outing didn't last long, but it made this individual happy. As far as people wearing masks around here in this southern pit stop state, it's about 30/70, but I think that has to do with a lack of available masks, along with a dose of southern rebellion.

I see death now on the daily, I need my wine after work, tp I can substitute with baby wipes or newspaper if needed. I shouldn't have to walk 5 city blocks just to find tp.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I see death now on the daily, I need my wine after work, tp I can substitute with baby wipes or newspaper if needed. I shouldn't have to walk 5 city blocks just to find tp.

If TP and wipes are not available, get a used pair of underpants (or a sock), get them soaked in warm water, and splash around your backside until you feel unsoiled. they were going in the wash anyway. You can also use a plastic bottle filled with warm water as a make-shift bidet.

 

[Asperchewy]

Looks like the next push will be for voluntary for now random testing.

http://archive.vn/ATtbo

Australia has decided to make it compulsory and Orwellian by calling it "sentinel surveillance".

Sentinel testing will be part of the strategy before Australia's coro…

archived 7 May 2020 04:54:44 UTC

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Because Australians apparently love this shit the opposition party has decided to run it as official policy:

Random testing will protect Tasmanians from COVID-19 - Tasmanian Labor

archived 7 May 2020 04:56:50 UTC

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Compulsory Nose Rape coming soon to a supermarket near you..

My Stop an Shop has one of the testing sites nearby. They just started testing today actually. I didnt know about the "random testing" letters. I missed Ginas daily report.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Bad news everyone. Bloomberg run an article with the catching quote "Universal stay-at-home is the most devastating economic force in modern history" according to Michael J Burry of 'The Big Short' fame

FEE made a video:

We Set The Economy On Fire. Now What?

Support Out of Frame on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/OutofFrameShow Check out FEE's newest Out of Frame video, "The Holocaust The New York Times Ignored"...

www.youtube.com

https://archive.vn/px5IY

Kind of long but it has a great bit where it shows the economy as a network and the stay at home shutdown of 'non-essential' services causing a wave of shutdowns which kill the essential ones later as node death spreads. Politicians spending a fortune on bailouts doesn't reverse this, but it does increase the indebtedness of the country. And even before the lockdown, the Western world hadn't really recovered from 2008. Quantitative easing didn't reverse the crash there either, but it did push up indebtedness.

I remember after 2008 people saying 'What will we do in the next economic crisis given that this one has left us with a high debt to GDP, probably not that far off a sovereign debt crisis?'. And now we've created a new economic crisis because of a Chinese virus and we're going to use more QE to get out of it. Which means more debt. And China owns enough of that debt to start the sovereign debt crisis - in the US case all they'd need to do is to announce they're not buying any more US debt and see if that triggers the meltdown. The US would presumably respond by getting allies to buy its debt and buying it up itself with QE'd money but the latter makes the debt look even more dodgy.

Bloomberg article

Michael Burry of ‘The Big Short’ Slams Virus Lockdowns in Tweetstorm

The investor, who also has an M.D., says the economic costs of the pandemic response are too high.

www.bloomberg.com

https://archive.vn/qJexi

It's like the fundamental rottenness of the system didn't really go away after 2008. QE and various other dubious economic practices managed to hide it. And now we've created the mother of all economic crises by overreacting to CCP virus. The CCP must be laughing their asses off at us. Actually given China has been in a 'Wait for the US to collapse, then take our rightful place as a regional power' mode for decades it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to try some military adventurism in the South China sea. Now the US Navy outclasses the Chinese one and hopefully the Chinese know that and that will deter them but who knows?

I realize this is basically doomer posting and I'd like to be proved wrong but I'm not sure I am. I'll have to read up on this Burry guy and see how credible he is.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

The amount of Covid-19 tests/1000 inhabitants in the Nordic countries http://archive.is/9QDCn

 

[Niggaplease]

If TP and wipes are not available, get a used pair of underpants (or a sock), get them soaked in warm water, and splash around your backside until you feel unsoiled. they were going in the wash anyway. You can also use a plastic bottle filled with warm water as a make-shift bidet.

now that I think off it I may go to Lowe's and see if they have they have hand held shower head extensions. I'm also going to extend my wine with brandy if I make sangria I can barely taste the brandy.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

MedCram video on Blood clots, race, and Von Willebrand factor

Coronavirus Pandemic Update 67: COVID-19 Blood Clots - Race, Blood Types, & Von Willebrand Factor

COVID-19 Update 67 with critical care specialist and pulmonologist Roger Seheult, MD of https://www.medcram.com After an update of global coronavirus infecti...

www.youtube.com

https://archive.vn/9xy0a

 

[mindlessobserver]

Listening to NPR discussing the origins of the coronavirus. Getting progressively more mad. Trump is just a chuckle fuck looking for someone else to blame, even china doesnt know where it came from and that even if china MAY have lied about its virus numbers is no proof that it came from the Wuhan lab. It's all a secret and a mystery!

*edit* the traitors are now parroting CCP propaganda about all the "experts" exonerating them and that if the US recklessly dares to continue to blame them they may withhold all that PPE and medicine they make.

Seriously. Fuck these people. I think this program is the New York times podcast?

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Trump's Press Secretary demonstrates how to deal with the media

Kayleigh McEnany Turns the Tables on Reporters About the Media Downplaying the Threat of COVID-19

www.youtube.com

https://archive.vn/BhDl9

Article

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2020/05/06/kayleigh-mcenany-turns-the-tables-on-reporters-about-the-media-downplaying-the-threat-of-the-wuhan-coronavirus-n2568344

https://archive.vn/sWDkO

I know it's childish but my morale has been raised 15.72% by this and that has probably boosted my immune system and made me more able to survive in the post lockdown economic wasteland.

 

[Stoneheart]

But the utter hammering of the tourism industry will be quite a world of hurt.

Cut your smoking bans, let people drink at the beach again and everything will be good the moment the virus is gone.

 

[RodgerDodger]

The amount of Covid-19 tests/1000 inhabitants in the Nordic countries http://archive.li/9QDCn
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Yeah, but for Iceland to hit 138 tested per million, they need to test like 12 1/2 people.

 

[AtomicAgeBoy]

People are willing to risk infection now due to not seeing healthcare collapse in 99% of areas.

Because perhaps social distancing and quarantines are working?

They are willing to be hospitalized to try and save their dad's buisness that theyve kept afloat for the last 15 years.

Not sure how relevant mom&pop shop are to finland. Majority are chain stores.

People are seeing their life's work destroyed for what?

For people not dying? What kinda fucking stupid question is that?

China's not only got the world shut down, theyve got the world screaming that noone else can reopen. Big thought there, huh?

I dont even understand how this is anyway relevant.

when did this thread become #OpenAmericaNow thread?

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

when did this thread become #OpenAmericaNow thread?

When the actual numbers that the WuFlu isn't all that dangerous became crystal clear.

 

[CeleryStalks]

Michigan, USA

Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D), has extended our stay-at-home order till May 28th, but manufacturing may resume, on conditions, on May 11, and the Big Three [major] auto manufacturers [are expected to open] on May 18th. She has also unveiled her six-phase plan for reopening the State, and says we are currently in phase 3, but that we may have to go backward if we do not abide by safety measures. Different regions might reopen at different times (Governor Whitmer's plan).

Whitmer extends Michigan stay-at-home order until May 28, manufacturing reopens Monday

Whitmer says Michiganders "are still safer at home" as the economy begins reopening.

www.mlive.com

(archive)

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/05/07/whitmer-extends-stay-home-order-through-may-28/3090683001/

(archive)
Edit for accuracy. Sorry!

Detroit field hospital at TCF Center officially closed after opening April 10. It could have held 1,000 patients. It never had many more than 20.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/05/07/tcf-field-hospital-officially-closed-duggan-says/3090139001/

(archive)

Another lawsuit against Governor Whitmer. This one by several Protestant organizations and individuals, filed in Grand Rapids U.S. District Court May 6. On mostly the same grounds as U.S. Rep. Mitchell's lawsuit (post), with the added claim of violating freedom of religion, because Governor Whitmer's most recent stay-at-home order says that “neither a place of religious worship nor its owner” could be charged for “allowing religious worship at such place,” but has no such protection for the congregants. PDF of lawsuit attached.
(article - archive)

While we're on the subject, have an update on a lawsuit I don't think I mentioned before.
Three candidates for political office vs. Governor Whitmer. On the grounds that her stay-at-home order impairs their ability to collect the needed signatures to run for office. Originally filed around April 1(?). (archive).
U.S. District Judge Terrence Berg orders Michigan to extend deadline from April 21 to May 8, to cut required number of signatures by 50%, and to allow electronic signature gathering. April 20 thru 25 (archive).
U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals rules that while Michigan needs to change something, the court does not have the authority to say exactly what, May 5 (archive).

Impeach [Governor Whitmer] already.

Conceivable, but not, I think, very likely. Conviction would require a two-thirds vote of the Senate, meaning the Republicans would need 4 Democrat defectors. (Michigan Senate: 38. Republicans: 22. Democrats: 16.)

Spoiler: Michigan Recap

SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN
Shelter-in-place order and shutdown of everything non-essential from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1, Friday, May 15, May 28 May 1, maybe? (archive) (executive order saved on KF) . The Republican-controlled legislature has refused to extend Governor Whitmer's emergency authority. Governor Whitmer insists her emergency orders are all still in effect (Rundown on the laws).
State attorney general Dana Nessel (D) is also leaving enforcement of the stay-at-home order to local discretion until the courts weigh in on it (archive). She has stated Governor Whitmer's orders are valid and are to be enforced (archive).
State senate leader Mike Shirkey (R) is not recommending that people disobey Governor Whitmer's executive orders. The legislature has filed a lawsuit against the governor (archive). Mr. Shirkey is also supporting a petition drive to change the law. Such a petition would require 340,047 signatures to be collected by May 27th. It would be veto-proof if approved by the legislature, and would go on the November ballot if denied by them (archive 1, archive 2, archive 3).
The legislature is not calling for civil disobedience at this time (archive).
U. S. Rep Paul Mitchell (R - The Thumb) has filed a lawsuit independently against Governor Whitmer, in federal district court. Link, pdf on KF.

OTHER SHUTDOWNS
Recap from NPR
Lawsuits continue to multiply (post). However, "all deadlines applicable to the commencement of all civil and probate actions and proceedings" are suspended until the end of the states of emergency and disaster. Executive order, and thus in limbo. (archive). Major protest at the State Capitol April 15 (A&N thread). Minor protest outside Governor's Mansion April 23 (archive). Protest at the State Capitol April 30 (A&N Thread).
The Big Three Auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler) have closed all factories in the USA, putting well over 150,000 workers out of work. This figure does not include workers at supplier factories, which were also obliged to close. (archive) (archive) (archive). They are still making a small number of parts for emergency vehicles, and production of ventilators, etc. has begun (archive- GM's ventilators, April 17. archive - Ford's ventilators, May 6) Ford is preparing to reopen (archive - April 26).

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Over 1 million unemployment claims filed = 10% of the total population of the state, nearly 25% of the workforce (Archive - April 16).
Big Brother is watching, and he approves. Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel down by 45%, compared to 40% nation-wide (website) (news article archive).
Car crashes are down, fatal car crashes are down, and overall death is actually down. (archive - April 12)

FREE STUFF!
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive) Executive order. May or may not still be valid.
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive) Executive order. May or may not still be valid.

HEALTH CARE
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a mistake in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive).
Elective surgeries are banned. Maybe? Who knows. If/when in effect, abortions were not included in the ban (thread).
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South.")(government website)
State of affairs May 5 - about half as many hospitalized cases and ICU cases as on April 12 (archive).

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). It was an executive order. Who knows if it's still valid?
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
Detroit shootings up, but most other crime down (archive - April 30); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. (Still valid???) Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive). Local police in the rural north and in Detroit suburbs have alike stated they will not be enforcing parts of the order (archive).

OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL

The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services reviews deaths and adds overlooked cases to the count three days a week: Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday.
38 deaths were added today.

Regular reviews of death certificate data maintained in Vital Records reporting systems are conducted by MDHHS staff three times per week. As a part of this process, records that identify COVID-19 infection as a contributing factor to death are compared against all laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Michigan Disease Surveillance System (MDSS). If a death certificate is matched to a confirmed COVID-19 case and that record in the MDSS does not indicate the individual died, the MDSS record is updated to indicate the death and the appropriate local health department is notified. These matched deaths are then included with mortality information posted to the Michigan Coronavirus website.

Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

31,167 confirmed / 3,479 dead
30,976 confirmed / 3,409 dead yesterday
(i.e. 70 new deaths, down 19 from this day last week)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

14,479 confirmed / 864 dead
14,078 confirmed / 841 dead yesterday
(i.e. 23 new deaths, down 7 from this day last week)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

45,646 confirmed / 4,343 dead
45,054 confirmed / 4,250 dead yesterday
(i.e. 93 new deaths, down 26 from this day last week, down 24 with no adjustments)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 16.
We have been (were?) locked down since: March 24 (until April 30?),
Masks have been mandatory in stores since: April 27 (until April 30?).

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
40 / 133*** / 29 / 51^ / 35*** / 45 / 70*** = 398***

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state and federal prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in categories of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** 75, 8, and 38 statewide deaths, respectively, were added on these days upon State review. Presumably most were in Detroit, but I don't know exactly how many.
^Software problems caused a delayed count on this day.
One Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
One Flint security guard allegedly murdered for telling a woman that her daughter needed to wear a mask in a dollar store (archive, A&N thread).

 

[Ghost In The Rain]

For people not dying? What kinda fucking stupid question is that?

Are there any? People not dying, that is. Is there even a scrap of evidence to suggest that the shutdown has saved even a single life? The majority of cases are people who have been isolating anyways, the majority of deaths are people who were so loaded with complications they were rolling the dice every time they go outside anyways, and the majority of data coming out in the past few weeks suggest that the vast majority of infections are completely absent from the majority of data because the majority of data requires symptoms before you can get tested.

Every now and then I see some doomers complaining about the lack of proper trials for one thing or another, or the lack of a control group when looking at a promising treatment that is showing results. Well I'm going to go ahead and call out the lack of a control group from the doomer treatment of world shutdown. So we are going to need an earth to go through this with 0 shutdown before you can suggest that a single person has not died because of the shutdown. And it'll need to be a double blind as well, because, ya know, placebo effect. (Actually in my neck of the woods the lockdown may as well be a placebo. They keep reopening businesses that never shut down in the first place.)

 

[Jaimas]

For fuck's sake:

De Blasio, NYPD commissioner: No protests allowed in NYC | Fox News

archived 7 May 2020 22:43:23 UTC

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De Blasio, NYPD commissioner: No protests allowed in NYC

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea stated outright this week that people are not permitted to gather for protests in public due to the coronavirus pandemic.

The city leaders pointed to the need to maintain social distancing in order to prevent greater spread of COVID-19, stating that this takes precedence over people's rights to exercise their First Amendment rights of free speech and assembly.

"You have no rights, move along citizens."