Plymouth shooting: Multiple fatalities in Keyham

A whole hellva lot a good arresting people for owning kitchen knifes with out a loicense did.
 
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Nopenopenope said:
I do believe there are no good reasons for anyone in the UK to own a gun apart from people who need it for their job. We have no constitutional right to bear arms, the police apart from a select few don't carry them, and as a country we have been without them for a very long time and are doing ok. The arguments related to taking guns away from Americans do not apply here.

All stopping licences and preventing the sale of guns will do is piss off a few target shooting faggots who will need to find a new hobby. Of course criminals will still find a way to get them, but it would at least keep them out the hands of speds like this loser.
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Considering that the last mass shooting in the UK before this one was all the way back in 2010, an average of less than one mass shooting per decade is hardly a crisis. Calling for a total ban on all civilian gun ownership is not a sensible or proportionate response IMO.

What should be asked, though, is who approved this guy's firearms license. This looks more like a case of serious incompetence on the part of police than it does a failure of the law itself. The fact his shotgun was given back to him after he was ordered to attend anger management classes is particularly baffling.
 
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Beautiful Border said:
Considering that the last mass shooting in the UK before this one was all the way back in 2010, an average of less than one mass shooting per decade is hardly a crisis. Calling for a total ban on all civilian gun ownership is not a sensible or proportionate response IMO.

What should be asked, though, is who approved this guy's firearms license. This looks more like a case of serious incompetence on the part of police than it does a failure of the law itself. The fact his shotgun was given back to him after he was ordered to attend anger management classes is particularly baffling.
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Considering that Americans can have multiple crimes under their belt and still have a right to a gun; you've really no right to talk about some sped on anger management getting a gun.
 
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Kermit Jizz said:
I'm at a loss for what arguments you think apply to Americans but not Br*tains. Isn't criminals running around with guns the key argument for having guns?
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Very few criminals over here can access guns. To get a gun you need to find the right person (although may be easier now with dark web), and have a fat stack of cash. Then you need to get the ammo. The difficulty and cost is way above what you would have to overcome in the US.
 
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This thread is weird, since it's been featured on the front page it's yoyo'ed from (rightly) mocking the hysteria and lies the feminists/MSM push about incels and their idiology, to regurgitating all these same BS talking points about them. I feel many here haven't actually spent any time on incel forums and see how they actually think. It's like the shithole incel thread on here, that's just a bunch of feminists pontificating over things the incels have never actually said, and intentionally distorting their ideas because deep down they know they're right about a lot of things.

Like many, I used to lurk on incel subs/forums to laugh at them and at some point I realised they were right about most things, and a lot of what's writen about them and their 'unreasonable' demands are complete fabrications. They 'blackpilled' me at some point, now I'm a staunch ally for them.

All this shit about how he was actually attractive enough to date a woman if he just 'scrubbed up' or he had 'body dysmorphia' etc. He was nowhere near attractive enough to attract women on online dating apps, which is pretty much he only place he was going to interact with women, I'd imagine he tried.

Also this tripe about incels wanting 9/10s or nothing is complete garbage, they rightly make the point that a bang average man, i.e. a 5/10, should have a reasonable shot at getting with a 4-5/10 girl. The reality is that is now almost impossible in these times, and that is completely unsustainable for society and is going to lead to disaster.

Really I'm suprised things like this haven't happened more often, honestly we should be thankful incels are as docile/depressed as they are.
 
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Euler's identity said:
He actually didn't look too unusual before he went down the Fred West route:

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Although looking at his choice of curtains I can see why he never touched a vagina.
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I was gonna point this out. I mean he looks fine. Sure he's fat but just hit the gym damn. Dude's ok looking. But I guess that's no use to tell an incel
 
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Beating Women said:
Like many, I used to lurk on incel subs/forums to laugh at them and at some point I realised they were right about most things
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Incels are right about one or two things, like how gynocentric western culture has become and how progressivism has negatively impacted men. They are wrong about nearly everything else.
 
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Beautiful Border said:
Considering that the last mass shooting in the UK before this one was all the way back in 2010, an average of less than one mass shooting per decade is hardly a crisis. Calling for a total ban on all civilian gun ownership is not a sensible or proportionate response IMO.

What should be asked, though, is who approved this guy's firearms license. This looks more like a case of serious incompetence on the part of police than it does a failure of the law itself. The fact his shotgun was given back to him after he was ordered to attend anger management classes is particularly baffling.
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I agree it isn't a crisis, I just don't understand why we have a blanket ban on guns yet still allow some people to have them for hobbies or because they just want to have one. You can't carry it out in public, you can't use it in the streets in self defence, I think even using one on your own property if someone breaks in results in court cases and having to prove your innocence.

It just increases the likelihood of someone doing something like this or getting it stolen from their house, then ending up in the hands of a London nigger.
 
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PK Shitstorm said:
Its going to get worse but not because there's a fundamental issue with the ratios in the population or because witch-hunts are back in fashion you're looking at symptoms and thinking that's the source of the illness.
As long as the general population keeps suffering from how shit the world has become and has uncaring rulers locked up in ivory towers radicalization is just going to become worse and worse, Inceldome is a way this desperation manifest, the Taliban in the middle east is another, the rise in politics fucking everything up is also one, it doesn't matter if you make a mandate for government assigned sexslaves, incels will still exist and will only rise in numbers as long as the quality of life in general keeps dropping for everybody
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Pfft. It is this sense of entitlement that is driving it. Nobody owes you shit. Not a job. Not a house. Not a pension. And certainly not poontang.

Nobody promised it to you either. It is just spoiled shits inventing ways society wronged them to excuse their own dysfunction.
 
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Nopenopenope said:
I agree it isn't a crisis, I just don't understand why we have a blanket ban on guns yet still allow some people to have them for hobbies or because they just want to have one. You can't carry it out in public, you can't use it in the streets in self defence, I think even using one on your own property if someone breaks in results in court cases and having to prove your innocence.

It just increases the likelihood of someone doing something like this or getting it stolen from their house, then ending up in the hands of a London nigger.
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In the US, you are assumed to be fit to own a gun until you prove otherwise. In the UK, you have to prove that you are fit to own a gun and are assumed to be unfit until you do. People are allowed to have them for hunting or shooting sports because those are considered valid reasons to own a gun. If you can't provide a specific purpose for what the gun will be used for then that obviously makes your motives more suspect than someone who can. I'm not sure why you wouldn't consider shooting sports to be a valid reason.

For the most part I like our laws as they stand, they filter out most of the crazies while still allowing people who have a genuine reason for them to have them. As it is the responsibility of the police to vet applicants for suitability, the responsibility for this unfit individual getting their hands on a gun lies on them.
 
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