FB 1/27: Thanks State Farm, Moar Money Plz

[Mourning Dove]

Well if Chris wants moar money we should send pennies his way.

 

[Marvin]

It is sort of sad and funny at the same time how Chris doesn't realize that anyone who would be willing to donate stuff to help him out has already done so, and isn't going to do it again. I think we'll see a rage-post about how people are cold hearted because everyone "stopped helping" him pretty soon.

That will happen eventually. Once Chris makes a post about how everyone stopped helping him, one can expect one of his Facebook friends to come in and lecture him on why people only sent donations once.

Nah, people overestimate this. Chris is definitely childish and whiny, but the problem with him bitching about the donations not coming in anymore is that it's not... specific enough a situation for him to complain about. It's not like someone specifically told him they might give him donations. If someone did that, he'd be a lot more likely to bitch about it. He'd cite that as a promise. But our current situation? Nah, I can't see it happening.

 

[CatParty]

yeah, he may not have been promised, but precedent has been established. and i do see him holding onto this as a pity mechanism

 

[lisaface]

A question about all these donations he thinks he needs: wouldn't State Farm reimbursement include the cost of buying new clothes and other necessities that were destroyed in the fire? Is the issue that they don't get a check for what was destroyed until several months down the road?

 

[Some JERK]

yeah, he may not have been promised, but precedent has been established. and i do see him holding onto this as a pity mechanism

That's basically what i was thinking. He already called out the GalPals specifically for not helping him, but i think that was more of some simple-minded form of retribution. I don't think he'll bitch at specific people for not helping him, i just think he'll use the donations drying up as a bullet point to feel sorry for himself.

 

[Lefty's Revenge]

Or she's just really fucking lazy

 

[Some JERK]

A question about all these donations he thinks he needs: wouldn't State Farm reimbursement include the cost of buying new clothes and other necessities that were destroyed in the fire? Is the issue that they don't get a check for what was destroyed until several months down the road?

If State Farm put them up in a hotel before any determination was made about their policy payout, then it stands to reason that they'd also have money in that emergency fund earmarked for food and clothing. It's pretty common for people to escape house fires with nothing but the clothes on their backs (and sometimes not even that much.)

 

[Marvin]

That will happen eventually. Once Chris makes a post about how everyone stopped helping him, one can expect one of his Facebook friends to come in and lecture him on why people only sent donations once.

Nah, people overestimate this. Chris is definitely childish and whiny, but the problem with him bitching about the donations not coming in anymore is that it's not... specific enough a situation for him to complain about. It's not like someone specifically told him they might give him donations. If someone did that, he'd be a lot more likely to bitch about it. He'd cite that as a promise. But our current situation? Nah, I can't see it happening.

Really, he wouldn't bitch about not getting presents? What about that time when he bitched that the Gal-Pals didn't send him anything/offer support/china?

Which time was that? Link? Plus, galpals are specific enemies, he's going to bitch about them whenever.

 

[Lefty's Revenge]

A lot of people want to give Chris the benefit of the doubt - and I don't blame them for trying to stay positive. It is reasonable to question the "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" appearance of people's attitudes toward him when they criticize him for being ungrateful, but then call him a liar when he acts nice.

But here's my take on his politeness: I think he's already adapting his mindset to say "I deserve charity because I suffered a hardship"; however, I think he's never going to say he's gotten enough, because since the fire will always have happened, he will always deserve compensation for it. You ever see a spoiled kid that screams his head off when he is denied something, but turns it off like a light switch when you give him the thing? The kid's emotions were barely part of the equation, he just knows to scream til he gets his entitlement. Well, I think Chris considers free shit to be his entitlement, and the novelty of this situation means that - for once - he has received that entitlement from people all around him. He's always felt he deserved to be given shit. Those of you who donated did so because you think that's the right thing to do when a person's house is destroyed. Contrary to what Chris assumes he deserves, none of you are going to keep donating indefinitely.

Chris is the little spoiled kid reaching for shit from the shopping cart, and for just this once the aether put that candy bar in his MANOS without delay, so he turned off the usual waterworks for a bit. He'll be back to normal as soon as donations stop coming in.

Agreed. And if we're paying attention, Chris' entitlement has already shown itself to be alive and well. It wasn't even a full week ago that Chris was criticizing his gal pals for not giving him free shit during his time of need.

I get that fires are terrible destructive things and putting your life back together is very difficult afterward. But Chris doesn't seem to grasp the idea that no one is entitled to charity. Especially not when their actions have put them in a position where they're almost completely incapable of taking care of themselves. Chris never got a job. Never saved up his tugboat. And never cleaned up his house so that the place wouldn't be so flammable. He's spent all his money on vidya, Mickey Ds, and a lawsuit from running over a businessman trying to help him with a car and made turned his house into a death trap. He should be happy him and Barb got out that motherfucker alive.

I realize Chris is dangerously unintelligent and quite autistic but he should be able to grasp the simple idea that he doesn't deserve anything to be handed to him. Theres a person collecting carts at your local supermarket with down syndrome who gets that concept. Why can't he?

 

[Francine StripeCheer]

It's amazing how many people are just accepting that Chris is grateful and taking his words at face-value. They're seriously Naive enough to think that Chris is being True and Honest - and when he does something objectionable, like insult those who saved his life, people act shocked and start backtracking on the praises they heaped on Chris for finally learning how to fake a "thank you". As if they're only just now discovering that, in fact, nastiness has been Chris's default attitude for three decades. It's truly, deeply astounding how much this forum can vacillate while Chris stays exactly, and I mean exactly the same.

The parallels with Chris's willingness to go back to fake gal-pals after they troll him are uncanny.

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[Alec Benson Leary]

Which time was that? Link? Plus, galpals are specific enemies, he's going to bitch about them whenever.

Although he views "the trolls" as a collective body as a specific enemy. And I'm pretty sure he'll be aware of where the gift package came from when he receives it.

 

[AtreyuFalcor]

This is true, but in order to get hired for such a job you'd need to be able to prove to them you can do the work in the first place. No manager is going to hire weak as shit Chris and pay him minimum wage in the hopes that he will get stronger and more capable when instead he could just hire a bunch of already strong and capable illegals for next to nothing.

I don't know if I agree. It is really easy to fire people from minimum wage jobs. The turnover is huge at a lot of them. You can get hired/fired easily. All you need to do is be the first guy to apply after someone gets fired/quits, and a lot of managers will give you a shot, planning to fire you in a week if you don't get a job.

When I was younger and working a series of minimum wage jobs, I worked with lots of people who were no better at whatever job it was than Chris would be. He might not last a super-long time at any of the jobs, but he could find work on occasion.

Chris could with a little persistence, work a series of minimum wage jobs. Just like Wendy's. C-ville might not be a big enough town to support that indefinitely,

I think there are two things preventing him. One is the . He doesn't need to. He is lazy, but so are a lot of people. He just never has a reason not to be lazy for a while. The other is a sense of grandeur. I have worked with lazy, crappy workers before. But they all knew that they were lazy and crappy, and the best way to stick around for another paycheck was to keep your head down and avoid supervisors. If you are told to go stock a shelf, don't whine about it. Politely say yes, and turn a 1 hour job into a 6 hour one. That way you are always "working" and the job assigned to you gets done eventually. Hopefully your supervisor is paying little enough attention that those are the only things that he notices.

I can be pretty cynical about Chris, but I actually believe this. I think that if his supervisor at Wendy's was informed of his disability and what it entailed, he could have had a more successful time there. Even though autism was kind of known in the 90s and early 2000s, I don't think the tolerance and understanding was nearly at the level it is today.

I also think he could get a job at target, if his boss was patient with him. The Target in my town seems to make a big point of hiring disabled people to assist customers. Btw, Im not Anna Mcclarren!

 

[Anchuent Christory]

I once heard that even the step of a drunken St. Bernard onto the thin ice of a frozen lake is forward progress, but it's nice to see him saying thank you even though we know this won't last long.

That being said, this situation reminds me of the old adage: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From what we know of their spending habits it's fairly safe to assume that they had already spent a large portion of their monthly income by the time of the fire, so donating at the moment would be like giving a starving man some fishing tackle and the location of a nearby fishing hole, along with a few fish to hold them over in the meantime. But giving them more after they pawn the tackle for a few cheap toys will do more harm than good; after all, what happens when there is no one around to give them things and they still haven't learned to fish?

Give Chris a fish, and he'll try and sell it on Craigslist for $1000, NO HAGGLE!

 

[CatParty]

I once heard that even the step of a drunken St. Bernard onto the thin ice of a frozen lake is forward progress, but it's nice to see him saying thank you even though we know this won't last long.

That being said, this situation reminds me of the old adage: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From what we know of their spending habits it's fairly safe to assume that they had already spent a large portion of their monthly income by the time of the fire, so donating at the moment would be like giving a starving man some fishing tackle and the location of a nearby fishing hole, along with a few fish to hold them over in the meantime. But giving them more after they pawn the tackle for a few cheap toys will do more harm than good; after all, what happens when there is no one around to give them things and they still haven't learned to fish?

Give Chris a fish, and he'll try and sell it on Craigslist for $1000, NO HAGGLE!

the last time chris got a fish.........

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[DrChristianTroy]

This is true, but in order to get hired for such a job you'd need to be able to prove to them you can do the work in the first place. No manager is going to hire weak as shit Chris and pay him minimum wage in the hopes that he will get stronger and more capable when instead he could just hire a bunch of already strong and capable illegals for next to nothing.

I don't know if I agree. It is really easy to fire people from minimum wage jobs. The turnover is huge at a lot of them. You can get hired/fired easily. All you need to do is be the first guy to apply after someone gets fired/quits, and a lot of managers will give you a shot, planning to fire you in a week if you don't get a job.

When I was younger and working a series of minimum wage jobs, I worked with lots of people who were no better at whatever job it was than Chris would be. He might not last a super-long time at any of the jobs, but he could find work on occasion.

Chris could with a little persistence, work a series of minimum wage jobs. Just like Wendy's. C-ville might not be a big enough town to support that indefinitely,

I think there are two things preventing him. One is the . He doesn't need to. He is lazy, but so are a lot of people. He just never has a reason not to be lazy for a while. The other is a sense of grandeur. I have worked with lazy, crappy workers before. But they all knew that they were lazy and crappy, and the best way to stick around for another paycheck was to keep your head down and avoid supervisors. If you are told to go stock a shelf, don't whine about it. Politely say yes, and turn a 1 hour job into a 6 hour one. That way you are always "working" and the job assigned to you gets done eventually. Hopefully your supervisor is paying little enough attention that those are the only things that he notices.

I can be pretty cynical about Chris, but I actually believe this. I think that if his supervisor at Wendy's was informed of his disability and what it entailed, he could have had a more successful time there. Even though autism was kind of known in the 90s and early 2000s, I don't think the tolerance and understanding was nearly at the level it is today.

I also think he could get a job at target, if his boss was patient with him. The Target in my town seems to make a big point of hiring disabled people to assist customers. Btw, Im not Anna Mcclarren!

I disagree. At this point is attitude is so poor that I don't think he could hold a job. His overall appearance and lack of work experience do not help.

 

[CatParty]

I can be pretty cynical about Chris, but I actually believe this. I think that if his supervisor at Wendy's was informed of his disability and what it entailed, he could have had a more successful time there. Even though autism was kind of known in the 90s and early 2000s, I don't think the tolerance and understanding was nearly at the level it is today.

I also think he could get a job at target, if his boss was patient with him. The Target in my town seems to make a big point of hiring disabled people to assist customers. Btw, Im not Anna Mcclarren!

Firstly, how do we know Chris' supervisor at Wendy's didn't know about his disability? He never shuts up about it. He'll use it as a crutch to gain him sympathy and special treatment whether he needs it or not.

Secondly, Chris has a tendency to try people's patience and wear out his welcome pretty quickly. Your hypothetical Target manager could be the most patient person in the world, one week of working there and Chris would be out on the street.

he knew all about chris's autism. chris states that discrimination against his autism is why he was fired.

 

[4Macie]

I can be pretty cynical about Chris, but I actually believe this. I think that if his supervisor at Wendy's was informed of his disability and what it entailed, he could have had a more successful time there. Even though autism was kind of known in the 90s and early 2000s, I don't think the tolerance and understanding was nearly at the level it is today.

I also think he could get a job at target, if his boss was patient with him. The Target in my town seems to make a big point of hiring disabled people to assist customers. Btw, Im not Anna Mcclarren!

I disagree. At this point is attitude is so poor that I don't think he could hold a job. His overall appearance and lack of work experience do not help.

1) Wendy's knew about his disability (he said his boss knew anyway), that's why he was doing cleaning duty and garbage duty. I have worked at Wendy's and have seen a few disabled people working there. That's all they do. They clean tables, take out the garbage, maybe refill toilette paper rolls, wash dishes, etc. Chris was never allowed to make sandwiches, put the fries down (or the chicken for that matter), and he was never near the grill or the money tills. They knew about his disability and he was STILL fired. Out of all the places I've worked, Wendy's had one of the most tolerant policies for people with mental disabilities. I have seen a man with severe autism go up to a guy and grab his shirt claiming it was his shirt... he had the guy on the ground and everything. He didn't get fired, he just got removed from our building and sent to the other Wendy's across town. The fact that Chris got fired from Wendy's is extremely difficult for me to believe, but I know it happened, so that just means it was THAT bad. Now that I think about it... the fact that he was 'special' probably helped him keep his job as long as he did (24 Aug 2001 - 10/11 Sept 2001).

2) I really don't believe Chris can ever find a job now. He feels too entitled to things, he feels that he's never in the wrong and that anyone who disagrees with him deserves to be punished or killed or set on fire. He wanted Mimm's girlfriend to be brutally murdered just because she was Mimm's girlfriend. No employer wants to work with that type of shitty attitude. Not only are his people skills complete shit, his work ethic is horrible. He seriously thought that saying he drew 10 pages was just as good as uploading them for his 'fans' to view. He seriously thought that he should be able to have a whole bag of Wendy's garbage (that stuff is NASTY stinky) and just continue working. And then when he realized that wasn't going to work, he tried to do laundry in the kitchen sink. Like I said, I've worked there... all he would have had to do is go to the supervisor on duty, show them the mess, and they'd let you borrow one of their on hand shirts. Or, like with the one I worked at, they let you clock out, go home and change, and then come right back. Chris didn't live that far from Wendy's, maybe a few miles at most, they definitely would have helped him out, especially since they knew he was different.

 

[Furina]

You know what? This all totally normal. Chris isn't being entitled or greedy at all. He's actually being very nice and appreciative. This fire has brought out a side of Chris I'm sure many of us didn't know existed at all. It's actually made him a better person.

Compare his attitude now to before the fire. If this fire was the start of a second lease on life (Not much will change. He's still Chris after all) it's off to a great start. Hell, maybe he'll start moving on with his life now that High school has been metaphorically destroyed and 14BC has been literally destroyed.

 

[Anchuent Christory]

Chris is capable of work, yet simultaneously unemployable. I would imagine with Wendys, his autism opened the door for him, then his attitude is what caused it to be slammed in his face.

I know I keep saying this, and I sound like a broken record, but Chris' autism isn't his biggest problem, it's his attitude to his autism. When you get down to it, he really isn't very disabled at all, I have personally met people with far more debilitating conditions who are employed in some capacity.
The difference will be that these people will have been brought up to challenge their condition and encouraged to push themselves, or at the very least come to terms with what they have and do what they can.
Chris has been taught that the entire world has to readjust itself to accommodate him personally, and that he need never exert himself or be forced into any undesirable situation.

 

[An Ounce of Vagina]

Chris has been taught that the entire world has to readjust itself to accommodate him personally, and that he need never exert himself or be forced into any undesirable situation.

And that anyone who says otherwise is nothing less then a purely evil subhuman and troll.