Grand Jury speculation thread

[Smleman303]

Again, he's not going to kill himself. Idea guys brainwashed him into believing that real sonichus don't kill themselves.

His delusion that he's a sonichu doesn't seem to be going anywhere, he even managed to combine it with the new Jesus shit.


Quite the opposite. If they had a strong case they would not have to wait until the last possible moment to escalate things. They had a year to do so. If they had more and they wanted to charge him with a felony, they could have easily indicted him months ago. This was either unplanned, part of a plea deal, or they ran out of time.

Option 3, Chris being an absolute tard plus how slow the courts got with covid caused this. They had to send him to western state to learn how to behave, not that it worked by the looks.

 

[A-№1]

From what I can remember Chris is incapable of creative thought. Everything he imagines is at most a distorted derivative of a cartoon, sitcom or other flavor of soy slop.

Not so much incapable as too lazy.

It bothers me that many speak with such assuredness on these hypothetical events when so few facts are available to the public.

Few specifics on Chris' specific case are available¹, but standard legal operating procedures are well known and well documented.

Who would have thought that crazy people would act crazy and not take the pills the doctor told them to take?!

Especially when the doctor is required by law to tell the patient they don't have to take their meds. Because dignity? For reasons, surely.

Don't get me wrong - the kooky anti-psych left was complicit with Reagan in all of this.

Oh for fuck's sake. The movement to shut down asylums started long before Reagan was even governor of California, and continued long after he was gone. Rose Kennedy was its poster child back in the 1960s. Also it happened on a state by state level, not federal. Yes he signed the bill in California that closed a lot of California asylums in favor of "community mental health care", but the California democrats had the numbers to push the bill through over him regardless. And yes, federal funding was cut for "community mental health care" while Reagan was president, but only as part of more general reversals of unaffordable Carter era largess. This was back when the government would actually tighten its belt instead of printing money out of nothing to pay for everything with inflation. How's that money printing thing working out, by the way?

I know people like using Reagan and the Republicans as boogey men scapegoats for the unintended consequences of their own schemes, but do please try to place credit (and blame) only where it's due. The worst damage to our mental health care systems have always been the result of meddling do-gooders who either tear down the existing systems as inadequate only to replace them with… nothing, or think they can solve the problem by throwing ever increasing amounts of money and bureaucracy at it so they can feel good about themselves without ever having to look too closely or get their hands dirty.

They can’t just release Chris without securing him housing of some kind. (A certain Rob Bell played a part there!)

That's the jail's problem, not the court's. And they only have to try for 30 days before tossing him out the door.

Sure, but if he gets 10 years, he is going to be in with some sort of hardened criminals.

Chris would be going to Marion, not Red Onion. He'll be surrounded by hardened crazies like himself, not hardened criminals.

Most likely he'll be released to a contained managed care tard home so his own tugboat will pay for his upkeep instead of the Virginia DOC. At least until he fucks up again.

the Mental Health Systems Act, a 1980 law

Was an unworkable one size fits nobody clusterfuck of pork that did more harm than good. It was based on the asinine, feel-good idea² that all mental health cases can be rehabilitated. Some can. Some can only be managed. Some can't even be managed, just contained. If it hadn't been repealed, we'd be blaming Reagan for not repealing it instead.

The only good thing in it, the patient's rights bit, was not repealed.

Mental health has to be handled on an individual, case by case basis by people qualified to handle it, not politicians or bureaucrats.

tl;dr: There is no legislative solution to mental health.

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¹ That's about to change.
² As if the people who came up with disco have any business making mental health decisions.

 

[AnOminous]

tl;dr: There is no legislative solution to mental health.

If I agreed with nothing else you said, I'd definitely still agree with this.

 

[bebopsingh]

If the Sonichu necklace don't fit you must aquit.

 

[Your Favorite New Friend]

Chris Chan inspired Law & Order episode when?

Barb will need to be played by someone a lot younger and hotter otherwise that episode of Sexy Victims Unit will be a real boner killer.

 

[AnOminous]

Barb will need to be played by someone a lot younger and hotter otherwise that episode of Sexy Victims Unit will be a real boner killer.

What, you're not fully erect when looking at this hottie?

Imagine the orgasmic bliss of this O-Face.

 

[Francine StripeCheer]

coming soon on NBC: Law and Order: Special Perpetrators Unit, cracking down on retarded criminals throughout the land

 

[fallen_punk]

What, you're not fully erect when looking at this hottie?
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Imagine the orgasmic bliss of this O-Face.

Not my proudest fap.

 

[Deborah "Debbie" Grayson]

What, you're not fully erect when looking at this hottie?
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Imagine the orgasmic bliss of this O-Face.

Add some kind of five o’clock shadow-filter to that and you most likely have how Chris looks in a decade or two. Uncanny.

 

[OrionBalls]

Chris Chan inspired Law & Order episode when?

It would be one of those episodes where no one wins. Barb falls through the cracks of social services and "Christine" would ultimately get sent to psych. Without the show doing a deep dive on the Christory of it all, it would simply end up being one of those episodes that just leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth. And Chris would end up sympathetic. No thanks.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Quite the opposite. If they had a strong case they would not have to wait until the last possible moment to escalate things. They had a year to do so. If they had more and they wanted to charge him with a felony, they could have easily indicted him months ago. This was either unplanned, part of a plea deal, or they ran out of time.

They have to have something. If all they had were calls/texts, Heilberg would just have gone lol drop the charges or we're going to trial.

 

[Basedgod]

They likely have more than that it get this far. Based on sperg and others observations it wouldn't have even got this far if that were true. And lucid... The state of Virginia sent a man with a iq of 59 to prison for life, they've sent way dumber than Chris to the pen.

Short of finding Chris's DNA inside of Barb all they have to go on is what he told the outside world... the phone call, his text messages, the letters... the same letters where he is talking about being the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, which doesn't exactly scream "reliable narrator." Plenty of room for reasonable doubt. If the jury feels bad for him they may end up acquitting just based on that, it's not unheard of

 

[AnOminous]

Short of finding Chris's DNA inside of Barb all they have to go on is what he told the outside world...

What do you think they did at the hospital you fucking sped?

 

[Smleman303]

Short of finding Chris's DNA inside of Barb all they have to go on is what he told the outside world... the phone call, his text messages, the letters... the same letters where he is talking about being the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, which doesn't exactly scream "reliable narrator." Plenty of room for reasonable doubt. If the jury feels bad for him they may end up acquitting just based on that, it's not unheard of

You forgot the welfare call and barbs medical. And that's great for the state, they don't have to pay for him, it's Dr streets. And you kinda ignore that ruckersville is old school conservative Virginia.... Chris is their worst nightmare come to life.

 

[Coke Zero]

Short of finding Chris's DNA inside of Barb all they have to go on is what he told the outside world... the phone call, his text messages, the letters... the same letters where he is talking about being the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, which doesn't exactly scream "reliable narrator." Plenty of room for reasonable doubt. If the jury feels bad for him they may end up acquitting just based on that, it's not unheard of

Obviously a sane individual with a good grasp on reality very likely would not attempt to have sex with their own mother. All other evidence showing that chris is both crazy and delusional makes it more likely to assume that's the kind of person who would do something as retarded as having sex with their mother. Not sure how you're coming to the conclusion that Chris being extremely mentally ill would benefit him in this situation. He's exactly the type of person who would do this.

 

[Basedgod]

What do you think they did at the hospital you fucking sped?

A rape kit, which tests for semen... most rapists don't bother with using a condom, kind of defeats the purpose. If they found Chris's DNA inside Barb they wouldn't have waited an entire year to upgrade his charges

All other evidence showing that chris is both crazy and delusional makes it more likely to assume that's the kind of person who would do something as retarded as having sex with their mother.

It's a catch 22, this also makes him an unreliable narrator. Since there's a high probably that the prosecution will focus on the things he's said to make their case this also works against them... when your testamony comes from a person who literally believes they're married to fictional characters that leaves room for reasonable doubt

 

[thismanlies]

It would be one of those episodes where no one wins. Barb falls through the cracks of social services and "Christine" would ultimately get sent to psych. Without the show doing a deep dive on the Christory of it all, it would simply end up being one of those episodes that just leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth. And Chris would end up sympathetic. No thanks.

Plot twist: The ACLU fights to get him sent to a women’s prison where he becomes the pet tard of some bull dyke who killed her own mother.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Honestly, in light of the recent events, I was thinking that some ween should try to get an interview with Michael Snyder to hear his take on the matter - and maybe get more details about the "running him over with their car" incident, since allegedly it was serious enough that Michael was injured and the court made Chris and Barb pay for his medical costs.

I think someone got an interview with Megan Schroeder awhile back.

In my head I cast Anthony Edwards as Snyder. Then you got Faye Dunaway as Barb and Richard Kind as Chris's inner thoughts.

I highly doubt he wants anything to do with his association with the Chandlers tbh.

Shame that the place got shut down though.

 

[Smleman303]

A rape kit, which tests for semen... most rapists don't bother with using a condom, kind of defeats the purpose. If they found Chris's DNA inside Barb they wouldn't have waited an entire year to upgrade his charges

It's a catch 22, this also makes him an unreliable narrator. Since there's a high probably that the prosecution will focus on the things he's said to make their case this also works against them... when your testamony comes from a person who literally believes they're married to fictional characters that leaves room for reasonable doubt

You neglect that Chris had to go to a hospital to be restored to competency, they possibly weren't able to. Also we've had two years of covid related delays.

Also the same letters will have Chris go guys I totally need 150k for the temple so he knows this larp ain't real you glue huffing Reddit reject.

 

[Coke Zero]

It's a catch 22, this also makes him an unreliable narrator. Since there's a high probably that the prosecution will focus on the things he's said to make their case this also works against them... when your testamony comes from a person who literally believes they're married to fictional characters that leaves room for reasonable doubt

Sure but you have to look at the entire situation. Like if he claimed he murdered 6 people because sonichu told him to do it and there was actually bodies found and strong evidence he actually did it, the insane ramblings about alternate dimensions and cartoon characters would make it obvious he's out of touch with reality and could actually do something like that.