no problem.
I might need some help as i am not in the swifty Twittesphere as much; heres who i know so far, these are the biggest twitter accounts:
- @TSwiftNZ - News for all swifties
- @TheSwiftSociety - Posts about the eras tour and about TS in general
- @ThrowbackTaylor - TS posts in general
- @4k_taylorr - Account which reposts TS tweets in 4k
The rest are mostly taylor swift shitposting accounts. if i find something interesting ill edit this post
Hutchleah is a good one. She's made her Twitter private but she still gets talked about.
Fat woke attention whore of a fan who lead a social media campaign to get Taylor to remove "fat" from her Anti-Hero music video.
Background: Taylor Swift had some eating disorder issues, they probably started to develop when she was a teenager pre-fame to some extent, but it's like she tried to maintain the same figure she had when she was 12 through her 20s, so especially from about 2013-2016 she seemed really skinny, nothing on Eugenia Cooney's level but still underweight. Around 2017 she opened up about this and had attained a healthier weight.
The music video has a twin that seems to represent her demons or negative impulses or w/e and scolds her for being fat.
Specifically at issue, it the fact that the scale had the words "fat" written on it, implying that being fat is a bad thing. Hutchleah being a fat positivity advocate finds this highly offensive, hence the social media campaign. Taylor unfortunately being scared of getting on the wrong side of her fans caved and edited that part out of her music video, even though most of her fans felt that whole cancelation campaign was stupid and she should have kept the original video.
Further evidence that Hutchleah being a self absorbed "fan" and seeing Taylor Swift mainly as a vessel for her activism was when Taylor Swift launched her Eras Tour in 2023. Apparently that was not a long enough wait for covid to be over, and even though Taylor advocated for her fans to social distance in 2020, has been seen regularly wearing masks in 2021-2022, launching a concert tour in 2023 was basically terrorism. Any Swiftie that wasn't on board with bullying her out of the fandom after the Anti-Hero stunt was definitely on-board with bullying her out for wanting to get the tour canceled, and Hutchleah is now a vocal Taylor Swift hater.
A taste of hutchleah (screenshots from a Swiftie Discord)
Some of her fat advocacy prior to Anti-Hero
Anti-Hero campaign
When Taylor Swift and actor Joe Alwyn broke up and Taylor Swift started dating The 1975's Matt Healy, Hutchleah was clearly Team Joe. Yes, Matty Healy is literally Hitler now, and Taylor Swift is a covid denier terrorist.
I've heard the term used with other musicians. Think Picasso and his periods, but swap the term "period" for "era".
Yeah, her fans have been using the term for at least a decade before the Eras Tour. Eras Tour was named as such because it covered a little bit from each Era/Album. Her previous tours had 1.5-2 hour long concerts with about 15-20 song setlists, Eras Tour was over 3 hours with an almost 40 song setlist, with a handful of songs from each album.
Eras refer to a phase of her life, or perhaps rather a phase of the fandom experience of her output. I'm pretty sure her fans came up with the term not her. It encompasses the music, the associated public events, fashion style (she'd often change her haircut and style of clothes with each album), relationship, concert tour
idk the Swifties are funny but the absolute chimpouts over her are just as bizarre
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Her fandom has kind of always had two sides. The ones that stood by her for keeping out of politics while she was attacked on buzzfeed, social media, etc for her silence during the early Trump years (2016-2017), and then ones that jumped onboard after she broke her silence on politics in 2018 and have been obsessively demanding for her to be a vessel for all their activist causes. The Gaza conflict has really brought out the latter half of her fandom.
Because they're stupid and immature consumers that fell for the idea that if not for the riches and fame, Swift would have been their bestie.
Seriously, there's some weird chatter right now that fans are going to concerts and exchanging friendship bracelets.
Because one of her new songs ("You're On Your Own Kid") told them that that's what Taylor Swift fans do. I mean I guess one or two fans here and there have done it before, but now that Taylor put it in a song, they've gotta Do The Thing.
This album was marketed as her unfiltered thoughts. To me that's just a euphemism for lack of quality control... and lack of effort put into the musical elements since the songs all sound the same. That also explains why the album is so ridiculously long, her albums used to be about 15 songs, then she started making them a little longer with the streaming era and re-recordings, but 31 songs is just ridiculous.
Her fans are coping if they don't think this is a decline. Even her first album of songs she wrote when she was 14 was better than this.
Taylor is watching
Taylor knows
Actually there is lore to this.
Taylor has for a long time interacted with fans. In her early days (2006-2008 ) when she was still trying to make a name for herself, she was quite approachable and would spend a long time meeting fans and signing autographs after shows, and engage with fans on MySpace. Then later Youtube livestreams, and ultimately cultivate a very strong community on Tumblr.
The Tumblr days, (around 2012-2015?) are when the parasocial relationship between her and her fans really maxed out, although it carried over to Stan Twitter after too. The ultimate prize for Swifties was to get invited to a Secret Session at her private home, where she would play songs from her upcoming album on her acoustic guitar to an audience of about 100 of her biggest fans, and share the secrets of what or who inspired her songs. Having that kind of access to Taylor, her home, the secret knowledge, and getting to hear her songs a month before anyone else would make them the envy of the fandom.
The next highest prize was to get invited to Meet & Greets behind the scenes during her concerts. You also had some one off events like her City of Lover concert in Paris, and occasionally other surprises like sending them presents ("Swiftmas"), or surprising them by showing up at their wedding, or donating to pay their tuition.
Unlike other artists who charge their fans for such events, Taylor Swift invites her fans to these Meet & Greets and Secret Sessions for free, BUT, the fans are carefully chosen by her team and herself. Taylor will often comment to fans she invites to these events about things she saw on their social media page, proof that she was watching them, and the ultimate validation for her fans. Taylor Swift's mother, Andrea, also helps pick out fans, especially at for the concert Meet & Greets, selecting the most enthusiastic fans with the most impressive outfits. Her larger team, Taylor Nation, is also involved.
This is how she really cultivated a parasocial relationship with her fans above and beyond that of other celebrities. It's why her fans are so obsessed about getting "Taylor Notices" and "Taylor Nation (TN) Notices" on social media (if Taylor or TN liked or commented on their posts), and a big part of why they dress up in special outfits for her shows, and why many Swifties will never be critical of her on social media, they're all competing to ascend to her inner circle, which truly reached cult-like levels in the late 2010s.
Eventually the cult started acting a little too unhinged though, even for Taylor, like with the one fan that stole a Scrabble board out of her house as a souvenir during a Secret Session. Or the Swiftie that faked having cancer to try and rally other Swifties to help her get bestowed with Taylor's attention.
You also had the stalkers - those were mainly of a different demographic of straight men (her obsessed female fans would "just" show up on the street outside her house). Not just talking about Russell Greer.
You also had the Waffle House shooter.
The guy that robbed a bank for Taylor Swift
Various stalkers breaking into her homes
Her security team has a whole database of stalkers and creeps, and it lead to the installation of facial recognition software at entrances to concert venues of her 2018 tour to help catch any that might try to enter.
With how obsessed her fans became, it seems like Taylor Swift has tried dialing the cult back a little. The last Secret Session was for Lover (2019), and the last concert Meet & Greets were for Reputation Tour (201
. Understandably, there would be none of that during covid with Folklore (2021), Evermore (2021) and Midnights (2022), but Tortured Poets (2024) had no Secret Session, and Eras Tour (2023-2024) had no Meet & Greets, so it seems like she's done with those. Social media interactions have also been dialed back, Tumblr is dead, and you can't see Twitter likes anymore, but she also doesn't use Instagram or Twitter as much as she used to, mostly just for generic promo, rather than fan interactions.
The idea that popular music has gotten worse is actually accurate people still listen to ACDC they're over 60 years old at this point people still listen to Mozart it's well over 500 years old do you remember Tears For Fears no one does because it was a terrible band from the 90s
the idea that there's no such thing as objective quality people still like the ink spots at this point it's over 80 years old
Elvis is still popular 80 years old
do you remember any of the terrible bands from the 1960s no you don't because mediocre music does not stand the test of time no one's going to be listening to Justin Bieber in 40 years
no one listens to Britney Spears anymore or the Backstreet Boys
remember any of the other mediocre 2000s pop stars Christina Aguilera no you don't
People still listen to Blink 182 which is not exactly Mozart and it's been 30 years now. People still listen to Britney and BSB. Not as much as 20 years ago, but if you look at the most streamed songs from the late 90s/early 00s, theirs are near the top.
And even then, Britney's albums were much more full of filler, same with BSB. This was at an era where labels stopped selling singles like they did in the 80s and earlier, and the only way to listen to the hit song was to buy the whole album that came with it, even if no-one had any interest in the other songs. Once Napster, Limewire and iTunes came out though, the music industry had to put in a little more effort, and you see that with Lady Gaga, Beyonce's later albums, Ariana Grande, Billie Eilish, Olivia Rodrigo... Sure their albums will have some songs that are more single worthy than others, but none of them have the blatant lack of effort put into the album tracks that you have with an album like Baby One More Time. Britney and BSB also only had about 5 years of people caring about their music, and 2 really big albums each. Taylor's started having that level of success in 2008 with Fearless, and although there's been slight ups and downs, she's been topping the charts pretty consistently for the close to 2 decades since.
Maybe a good way to look at it is that Taylor Swift is to Zoomer girls what Eminem was to Millenial boys? Eminem also had fairly long lasting appeal, from the late 90s to MMLP2, maybe a bit beyond. Mix of memorable and cringe lyrics, mix of heartfelt and immature songs, but fans were still dedicated, were in it for more than just the hit singles, and supported his music for more than just a couple album cycles, and he wound up the best selling artist of that generation, and people still go back to his old songs 20-25 years later. Obviously not everyone, other Millennials go back to Linkin Park or Blink 182 or Beyonce or Slipknot, but Eminem is still the artist that gets the most daily streams from that cohort, to this day.
I'm sure other artists from this generation will have good staying power. Probably Kendrick Lamar, maybe The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey or Kanye West, but I think Taylor's music will have more staying power than Drake, Justin Bieber, BTS or Katy Perry.
I’d be interested in how her net worth is calculated. It reminds me of how any celebrity with a clothing, makeup or perfume line is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and then the brand gets sold to some conglomerate for a few million a few years later. Or how Kanye West lost $1.5 billion overnight when Adidas pulled the plug.
Her net worth is probably pretty legit. $3billion in touring revenue, $2-3 billion in streaming and music sales. Obviously the venues, labels, etc take a cut too but it's not hard to see how she could get $1 billion from that. Plus commercial endorsements, radio revenue, merch sales, Eras Tour Movie sales...
Are we sure that’s not just 4chan having a laugh?
Nah, if you visited ATRL's forum back when they didn't have as much moderation, the gay pop fandoms were getting pretty wild. This is probably just the next gen of the same messiness.
This is absolutely hilarious, truly a Thanksneeding miracle.
That being said, is Beynigger really all the swifties could come up with? Why not throw in a ‘Sheboonce’ or a ‘Beyonchimp’? Still funny to witness nonetheless.
I've seen Babonce and Beyuki thrown around on ATRL.
I can't believe this thread didn't include the conspiracy where Taylor Swift is the clone or daughter of Zeena LaFey, the daughter of the Founder of the Church of Satan.
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This would explain why her fans post satanic shit whenever they're trying to curse her haters with Tayvoodoo.
(these are the colors of the lesbian flag lol)
