Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Kled]

I cant remember what specifically made me peak but I remember specific events that made me go "Shut UUUUUUUUUUUUP..."

I've always had a huskier, deeper voice and as a kid I would get misgendered and teased all the time. It made me upset and cry all the time and I essentially slid back and fell into depression and severe low self esteem. I was also a fat kid and that had an equally huge effect on me. This was in the 00s and back in middle school I started thinking maybe I was born wrong. That I was supposed to be a male all of that. In hindsight and with years of therapy I realized that was just the clinical depression talking. I didnt feel like a female even if i was fine with my body. Thats when i found out about body dysmorphia and what it was. Immediately answered a lot of questions and i started backing off of the trans question.

There was no internet grooming (outside of furries), no tranny chats, none of that. I came up with the thought and figured out my own issue and solution. That's what I assumed all transgender people went through and to be fair, it is. I knew an ftm at one of my old jobs and they were cool. None in uni, none in community college, just that one workplace. They were more common online in the spaces I hung out in. This was early in the 2010s and I wss ambivalent about it ultimately. Im all for friends being there for each other and people being happy so hey, if it makes you happy then great!

Yeah nah, it soon became the exact opposite. I'll always be a tomboy and say that. I've had one person suggest that i really am trans because i entertained the thought for a long time. I said no and that I have a love-hate relationship with my body. The mere idea of that made me upset. Black women are already treated like masculine fucks and i have a serious issue with that mindset. Ironically I actually feel so much more worse about myself because of this shit. I don't like joining group calls or talking to people. Im going to lose my mind if someone insists im an ftm again. Thats so disrespectful to even suggest to anyone.

Anyway I'm getting away from my point. I started paying attention when i first joined the site and participated in the PK thread. Again, im ambivalent about it all and while it was weird and disturbing (Eevee is so fucking disturbing to observe) it had no bearing on my life. Then 2016 happened, then the trans in the army ban, the TDS, all of it started making me groan in aggravation. The tumblr porn ban made them all shit up twitter and i felt my good will completely evaporate. I have a couple of transmale friends now; one who's a great guy who takes care of himself, does him, and is a diligent worker. I can rave about him all day because he's so nice. The other i can only hope is the same. I prefer the person have a personality and hobbies that arent their labels tyvm.

I realize they are outliers and ive seen some of the nastiest, degenerate fucks bith in the wild and in the sideshow thread. I guess i can say browsing it peaked me then...because I started getting vitriolic. The JK Rowling stuff was fucking annoying and made it worse. The tranny sideshow thread just made me realize that there were NO PLACES to just bitch about this stuff. Not one place online aside from here to just vent and get it out. I got introduced to an associate and he's my immediate go-to to talk about the woes of Clown World. Amazing introduction by a mutual of ours. But thats my issue. You cant say shit about these people. No jokes, no criticisms, no advice. Everything is a hate crime or transphobic or bigotry. Simply denying them into any space is fascism. Ive had enough of it.

I try to be more positive and help people if i see they need it but holy shit these people act like advice is poison and blind praise is a vaccine. Why are most of them fucking autistic??? Why are they all like this? If the person is trans but an actual person and not some programmed cyborg then I'm fine. Kled Dad and Kled Mother are both fucking sick of them. I talk with my mom daily about the trannies. My dad just makes mean spirited jokes like he always does. He just fucking hates them. If i see another autistic shrimp go "i wish i could just be a cute girl" im going to scream.

Its always cathartic to just come into a room and scream at the wall while breaking plates. Im not a bigot; racist yes. Who isnt? Yet at the rate this is going, im going to get caught making faces at any tranny i see. They all congregate downtown by the university as bums or students. I feel like a fucking boomer.

 

[KiislovaReloaded]

snip.

Similar to how do we even know troon HRT can cause cancer even though we are in some sense, not allowed to study it.
Some patients whose pituitary shuts down stop producing most hormones, as a result, these patients receive the exact same treatment a troon would get, consisting on replacement synthetic hormones, and... These patients get cancer at increased rates.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.

 

[realitysurf]

Similar to how do we even know troon HRT can cause cancer even though we are in some sense, not allowed to study it.
Some patients whose pituitary shuts down stop producing most hormones, as a result, these patients receive the exact same treatment a troon would get, consisting on replacement synthetic hormones, and... These patients get cancer at increased rates.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.

I just want to know why we give any kid a drug that will permanently shut them down and make them feel like shit but a 45 year old hypogonadal man who cant get a boner goes to see an endocrinologist and they just slap him with Viagra instead of something like TRT that he actually needs.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I just want to know why we give any kid a drug that will permanently shut them down and make them feel like shit but a 45 year old hypogonadal man who cant get a boner goes to see an endocrinologist and they just slap him with Viagra instead of something like TRT that he actually needs.

Money. Until 2018, Pfizer held patents on viagra that netted them hundreds of millions per year. The patent expired at the end of 2017; they've essentially stopped marketing it since and prescriptions have been falling steadily for the last four years. I'm sure they're thinking up a new version they can patent and turn into another captive market.

Nobody has any exclusive rights to testosterone supplements, so drug companies tend not to promote it as a treatment. Not enough profit.

 

[Wallace]

I just want to know why we give any kid a drug that will permanently shut them down and make them feel like shit but a 45 year old hypogonadal man who cant get a boner goes to see an endocrinologist and they just slap him with Viagra instead of something like TRT that he actually needs.

It's not about helping kids. It's about the social status and the shot in the arm of phony virtue. Don't forget, the people who kept promoting the Satanic Ritual Abuse panic in the 80s were journalists and shrinks.

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

Basically when I was accused of being transphobe for being bisexual. But before that I always had my doubts, specially because of bad experience with troons that I wasn't able to talk about without being scrutinized and berated. And then, out of nowhere I was called just because of my sexual orientation, I didn't even say anything to trigger the rant, it was bizarre.

 

[Sonichu-choo trainwreck]

I didn't even say anything to trigger the rant, it was bizarre.

oh no! what are the odds...120...130%!?!

That's pretty much how it works. You are basically some Assigned male strawman at that point. Fully on trooning isn't some guy who feels more comfortable in a dress and being called Annabelle or transfolk asking to be left alone to live their lives.
"leave me alone" is exactly what troons aren't actually promoting.

It's funny that troons like Bri Bri and Sophie talk about "radicalization" away from their positions, but they fail to acknowledge that they are pushing people away from their position by simply being unreasonable and unthruthful.
and as far as engaging in any dialog...
Sophies stuff is "only followers"
and bri bris blocklist is probably about the same size as the census

 

[realitysurf]

Money. Until 2018, Pfizer held patents on viagra that netted them hundreds of millions per year. The patent expired at the end of 2017; they've essentially stopped marketing it since and prescriptions have been falling steadily for the last four years. I'm sure they're thinking up a new version they can patent and turn into another captive market.

Nobody has any exclusive rights to testosterone supplements, so drug companies tend not to promote it as a treatment. Not enough profit.

Totally agree with you. The sins of the pharmaceudical companies are numerous. They're responsible for some of the most reprehensible things a person can do just to satisfy their avarice.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Totally agree with you. The sins of the pharmaceudical companies are numerous. They're responsible for some of the most reprehensible things a person can do just to satisfy their avarice.

Medicinal patents or copyrights need to be less than a decade. Imagine having the audacity to think that you have the right to hold a monopoly on a chemical that a high schooler could produce in a chemistry lab for less than twenty dollars.

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

oh no! what are the odds...120...130%!?!

That's pretty much how it works. You are basically some Assigned male strawman at that point. Fully on trooning isn't some guy who feels more comfortable in a dress and being called Annabelle or transfolk asking to be left alone to live their lives.
"leave me alone" is exactly what troons aren't actually promoting.

It's funny that troons like Bri Bri and Sophie talk about "radicalization" away from their positions, but they fail to acknowledge that they are pushing people away from their positionby simply being unreaonable and unthruthful.
and as far as engaging in any diaglog.
Sophies stuff is "only followers"
and bri bris blocklist is probably about the same size as the census

The thing is that I am a True and Honest Woman, but they just think they are a better version of women. Disgusting.

 

[Big moth tiddies]

Don't forget, the people who kept promoting the Satanic Ritual Abuse panic in the 80s were journalists and shrinks.

Also government workers. They received funding for the number of victims they discovered, and- oh my, whodda thunk it?! Suddenly there are tons of children being raped and molested alllll the time!

 

[fakemon]

The thing is that I am a True and Honest Woman, but they just think they are a better version of women. Disgusting.

They are a better version of women, because they are men. Men beat women hands-down on literally everything except being fuckable and tolerance for screaming babies.

And not all women even have either of those qualities, let alone both. Women are biological failures, the 'also ran' of our species.

 

[KiislovaReloaded]

Basically when I was accused of being transphobe for being bisexual. But before that I always had my doubts, specially because of bad experience with troons that I wasn't able to talk about without being scrutinized and berated. And then, out of nowhere I was called just because of my sexual orientation, I didn't even say anything to trigger the rant, it was bizarre.

Bisexual is problematic now, the thing to say now is "Pan" where it explicitly allows for troons to fit into your dating pool.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Bisexual is problematic now, the thing to say now is "Pan" where it explicitly allows for troons to fit into your dating pool.

I remember when pan meant "I would Riker my way through the galaxy without a single regret". Now it just means "gay with extra steps", which feels like a bit of a rug-pull.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Bisexuality seems honest: see pretty person, get happy in the pants.

I always assume "pan" is a cover for some really weird shit, like if they started to narrow it down by genders, ages, species, or genitals, people would start looking for the exit.

I couldn't fuck someone who had SRS anymore than I would want to fuck a woman with FGM.

At least with real genitals, they're probably not going to fall apart on you.

 

[Souji Tendou]

Ya know what. Might aswell share mine.

Spoiler: More personal sperging than the rest of thread

Back when I was 15, I was a wee lil Souji. Innocent shut-in guy with barely any friends, thus I clung to the internet. Ended up finding out I was Bi that way, sadly that also lead to me getting in contact with an at the time 27 year old (smack addict, didnt know at the time) who slowly tried to convince me I was a troon. Sadly this cunt succeeded through grooming. If you tell any shut-in if they can be happy through becoming a "girl", they fucking listen.

Fell for this nonsense for a good 3 years and I'm glad I never got on actual troonshine, even though I got away from the main guy after a few months. At first I'd've chalked it up to that guy being terrible, but the more people I befriended at that time, the more I realized it was damn near all of em. After some time I realized it was a troon problem in general.

Ended up detransitioning soon afterward, dont regret a single second of that decision as opposed to trooning out.

 

[KiislovaReloaded]

I never got on actual troonshine,

Ended up detransitioning

So you were "just" doing dress-up then?
Man you dodged a bullet. Troonshine is the point of no return.

 

[Souji Tendou]

So you were "just" doing dress-up then?
Man you dodged a bullet. Troonshine is the point of no return.

Oh you fucking bet I dodged a bullet. With detransitioning I mean I had to admit to family etc that I got groomed which was hard at the time.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Oh you fucking bet I dodged a bullet. With detransitioning I mean I had to admit to family etc that I got groomed which was hard at the time.

Goddamn bro. Glad you woke up. Seems its everywhere now the sick fucks. Should be illegal to try and recruit like they do.

 

[Souji Tendou]

Goddamn bro. Glad you woke up. Seems its everywhere now the sick fucks. Should be illegal to try and recruit like they do.

It really fucking should be. Says a lot that I feel safer saying this shit on a fringe "terror" forum than any troon-filled places.