Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[TingoFranDingo]

Americans don't include tax in price labels because of the extra electricity for processing it would use? Ok, I'll assume that's true, because you can't make this shit up.

a lot of food items generally arent taxable

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

Isn't there also a lot of river-shipping?

ive never specifically heard of river shipping, in regards to the UPS distribution center, but im sure it plays a part. the mississippi river handles an ungodly amount of shipping.

addendum: actually i would imagine the river would handle things like coal or steel.

 

[VeeAndro]

@Swamp_Donkey I feel like it has been a thing since the city was built and it was built for this kind of thing.

 

[Marsh Rabbit]

I'm just here for nutrition sperging right now because I have the urge to spread this.

Since 2000, Americans have had a steady decline in their sugar consumption. Obviously compared to 1820 where shipping sugar was out your nose expensive, Americans still eat more. But currently Americans are similar to their 1980s consumption, at which point obesity was much lower. Yet, obesity shows no signs of decreasing. This is just something I find interesting. Either something is super sloppish in our goyslop, we don't move, or there's another mechanism going on which could take a couple generations to fix.

I also want to quickly compare this with Europe:



Americans in this metric are 33.2 kg/year apparently. I'm not sure how reliable these sources are for this but that's what you're getting. All our diets are fucked.

 

[RussianParasite]

ive never specifically heard of river shipping, in regards to the UPS distribution center, but im sure it plays a part. the mississippi river handles an ungodly amount of shipping.

addendum: actually i would imagine the river would handle things like coal or steel.

The Mississippi River system handles a ridiculous amount of commodities necessary for everyday life for a lot of the US. Everything from food products (like grains) to scrap metal goes along that route in massive quantities. Hard to understate its importance. It also does handle coal and steel in large volumes as you mentioned.

 

[Yandex Captcha Solver]

Isn't there also a lot of river-shipping?

Fresh seafood isn't going to be going by river due to the speed of it. It will be via overnight air shipments or via trucks with team driving as fresh fish will spoil relatively quickly.

Most of the time if you are in the Midwest or further places from the coast and see "fresh salmon" or something non native. It will be previously frozen fish that has been thawed at the store.

 

[Hwabag Hussein]

Meds and sproke now

 

[Something Awful]

Since 2000, Americans have had a steady decline in their sugar consumption. Obviously compared to 1820 where shipping sugar was out your nose expensive, Americans still eat more. But currently Americans are similar to their 1980s consumption, at which point obesity was much lower. Yet, obesity shows no signs of decreasing.

The consumption of artificial sweeteners has grown proportionally to the decline in sugar consumption since the early 2000s. But, as it turns out, it's not specifically sugar that makes you fat, it's excessive intake of calories and a sedentary lifestyle.

 

[Unique User Name]

But most Americans don't live on the coasts.

This is objectively wrong.

I'm just here for nutrition sperging right now because I have the urge to spread this.
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Since 2000, Americans have had a steady decline in their sugar consumption. Obviously compared to 1820 where shipping sugar was out your nose expensive, Americans still eat more. But currently Americans are similar to their 1980s consumption, at which point obesity was much lower. Yet, obesity shows no signs of decreasing. This is just something I find interesting. Either something is super sloppish in our goyslop, we don't move, or there's another mechanism going on which could take a couple generations to fix.

I also want to quickly compare this with Europe:

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Americans in this metric are 33.2 kg/year apparently. I'm not sure how reliable these sources are for this but that's what you're getting. All our diets are fucked.

https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2021/07/07/a-chemical-hunger-part-i-mysteries/

 

[The Blue Morpho]

Fresh seafood isn't going to be going by river due to the speed of it. It will be via overnight air shipments or via trucks with team driving as fresh fish will spoil relatively quickly.

Most of the time if you are in the Midwest or further places from the coast and see "fresh salmon" or something non native. It will be previously frozen fish that has been thawed at the store.

Great Lakes have salmon, but otherwise yeah

Nothing worse than trying to cook with frozen fish though. Like I said earlier in the thread, if you're doing anything but breading and frying it the albumin starts to puss out like a parasite. Perfectly harmless but totally unappetizing.

Edit:

The consumption of artificial sweeteners has grown proportionally to the decline in sugar consumption since the early 2000s. But, as it turns out, it's not specifically sugar that makes you fat, it's excessive intake of calories and a sedentary lifestyle.

I like my Zevia. I do wonder if there's been a reduction in the rates of diabetes in Americans which coincides with their decline in sugar consumption?

 

[Haramburger]

All I learned from this retarded exchange is that this is unironically a Green Bay Packers website somehow

 

[The Great Nig in the Sky]

The inspection labels say where the meat is slaughtered (Est. #) you just have to check the USDA directory on thier website.

The meat in your example label was slaughtered by the Lakeside Refrigerated Services Company at 2600 Oldmans Creek Road, Swedesboro, NJ.

 

[RussianParasite]

Great Lakes have salmon, but otherwise yeah

They also have Walleye, which is the best fish in North American cuisine.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

They also have Walleye, which is the best fish in North American cuisine.

I used to prefer perch, but its gotten so fucking expensive lately (and it was never cheap) I've been favoring the walleye and I gotta say, you may be right about that.

 

[Wendy Wheelchair]

bro you should not need to burn that much gas to get fucking bread

"bRo YoU sHoUlD nOt NeEd To BuRn ThAt MuCh GaS tO gEt FuCkInG bReAd" --Josh Thunberg, telling people to not live in the countryside

Also, for the record:

 

[Marsh Rabbit]

The consumption of artificial sweeteners has grown proportionally to the decline in sugar consumption since the early 2000s. But, as it turns out, it's not specifically sugar that makes you fat, it's excessive intake of calories and a sedentary lifestyle.

Okay, I didn't expect the calorie intake to be that bad. Holy shit.

This is why we are all so fat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_food_energy_intake
This wikipedia article is interesting on the topic.

About diabetes, I'm not huge on statistical nuance but diabetes incidence has decreased, which means there are less diagnoses each year, but prevalence is still increasing. Not sure which is more relevant to your question @The Blue Morpho

 

[Getting Sentimental]

A lot of the shelf-stable bread is also bitchin to make a good dressing/stuffing with for thanksgiving. Homemade bread just doesn’t hit the same way.

You can actually very easily replicate the chemical used to make american cheese as meltable as it is, sodium citrate with just baking soda and a sour citrus fruit, but unless your making just a cheese sauce having "plastic cheese" with its scary chemicals around is an easy way to improve grilled cheese. Alot of the reasons some more popular "goyslop" has remained popular is those preservatives and chemicals can be used to greatly streamline the process of making homemade meals, which makes the accusation Americans don't cook especially baffling, no ones fucking eating slices of uncooked american except in eurocucks seething /pol/ greentexts.

 

[DavidS877]

Interestingly most fish called 'Sushi Grade' has to be frozen. Many state laws refer to the FDA requirements(Food Code) that fish that is intended to be consumed raw or undercooked must be frozen. Except most tuna and farmed fish.

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

Interestingly most fish called 'Sushi Grade' has to be frozen. Many state laws refer to the FDA requirements(Food Code) that fish that is intended to be consumed raw or undercooked must be frozen. Except most tuna and farmed fish.

yeah freezing fish doesnt actually degrade the quality nearly as bad as people think. ofc if its frozen for weeks on end thats a different story.

it also depends on how its frozen. im sure people have heard about alaskan ice fishing where the fish is nearly flash frozen as its pulled out of the hole.

 

[Sneed S. McSneedensen]

"I do not like eating plastic labelled as 'cheddar cheese'".

>NOOOO YOU'RE ARE LITERALLY A NIGGER

What did Kiwifarms mean by this?