Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Vinilo]

Hi all. I think this is the best thread to talk about this. I haven't lost anyone, but I'm somewhat worried about my cousin. She's a young teenager and has always been different than the rest of our family members. She likes to dress in an alternative fashion, black clothes, dark eye makeup, but nothing drastic. She always has been awkward, shy and sensitive and kind of weird, in a way you would spot an autistic person by the way of speaking and mannerisms, very small things. During the last family gathering me and our cousins went outside and started talking, before we didn't have a great relationship (not hostile). I'm the oldest cousin and have good relationships with all of those I see often, but I see her rarely. She told me she was scared of me and found me intimidating before this situation lmao.

Recently during another family thing we spent much more time together and she opened up to me and three of my other cousins. We went to a long walk and talked. She had to change schools due to constant bullying and her class teacher inaction. Boys in her class were targeting her because she's weird and unusual and doesn't talk much, has a weird style and interest, listens to weird music (metal) etc. She experimented a lot with hair and one time cut a big strand too short by accident, so she decided to cut the rest to match. Then the bully group moved from name calling to physical violence, pushing her, poking her with scissors, stealing her backpack and personal items, locking her in rooms, making her trip on the hallways and such. One time a boy pushed her down the stairs and she hurt her arm. The class teacher saw it and did nothing. Other teachers also ignored her, saying it's not a big deal when she talked about it. One time a boy was calling her a lesbian because she has short hair, she replied by asking if his mom and grandma were also lesbians since they have even shorter hair than her and. He got mad and went away lmao. It was mostly her talking during the walk, I felt like it was weighing on her and needed to say all of this.

My cousins (all around her age) laughed at the notion that a haircut indicates these things. They said that they know and know of lesbians and bisexual girls who have typical haircuts.
Before the walk she was implying that her female friend is something more, like "my friend... well, I don't know if she's a friend because of some stuff". I asked if she's mean to her or talking behind her back, she said it's the opposite. We said "ohhh, a "special friend", as to show acceptance and not make it a big deal. During the walk she said the friend is her girlfriend and we reacted normally. The same way if a straight girl said "my boyfriend", which is the best way to treat those issues in my opinion.

Her new school is much better, she likes her class and the class teacher. But I'm kinda worried about her still. She had difficult experiences, her self esteem is low, she seems to be lonely and is a bit weird. Her parents are loving but demanding, she feels she's worse than her incredibly intelligent brother who is studying medicine, and she has had low grades. She also dresses in a masculine way, for one formal event she wore a suit, I've seen her in a skirt maybe once. Her clothes are very oversized. Her character is more of a tomboy. I don't mean that she has to wear high heels and have her hair done for math class, but a vulnerable, kind of depressed young girl could be receptive for a trans narrative. Our huge family is very traditional and religious (but loving), while she is either bisexual or lesbian. There are not many trans people here, I haven't seen one irl ever, there are LGB but they're everywhere. They are online though, she uses social media. We know how algorithms work. She could come across crazy things, like "if you don't like dresses, dislike your periods and have masculine hobbies you are a boy actually".

My question would be, what to look for in terms of possible trans thoughts in a case of young girl struggling mentally? She's very intelligent, but social media can make a mush of anybody's brain. I'm very happy she opened up and felt safe, I told her to text or call me anytime. I want to be a good example for her.

 

[Fapcop]

My question would be, what to look for in terms of possible trans thoughts in a case of young girl struggling mentally? She's very intelligent, but social media can make a mush of anybody's brain. I'm very happy she opened up and felt safe, I told her to text or call me anytime. I want to be a good example for her.

Just wanted to say: Limit her exposure to LBGT spaces. It may seem like an idea to push her towards those (“she’ll make friends!”) but don’t. They’re full of tranny bullshit these days, and full of groomers.

Also: Watch out for groomers. They come in all forms these days: Boys who want sex, girls who want other girls to be miserable. Teachers and adults who present themselves as a shoulder to cry on, while looking for converts to the cult.

And watch her SM. Discord is especially known for being a pooner/tranny cesspit.

I know you’re not that close, but maybe you can judge her parents in the right direction.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Queer people like to say the high amount of trans suicides is down to the chicanery of society. How much of it is actually people falling down a rabbit hole of all this only to realize X years down the road that they were delusional and potentially caused irreversible changes (or even, potentially, harm) to their psyche and body?

People are allowed to talk about about how they're deeply in debt and wasted earning years; <x> major was a mistake and they should have just started working at <y> job instead. Even someone who got a job with that degree will be sympathetic.

TRA people on the "trust the science" side like to brag about low rate of regrets--but people aren't allowed to express regrets. Someone half-through a transition, someone who's burned every other bridge on the advice of the "trans community"--that means they can't say anything controversial to the trans community, or else they'll have nobody.

One time a boy was calling her a lesbian because she has short hair, she replied by asking if his mom and grandma were also lesbians since they have even shorter hair than her and. He got mad and went away lmao.

Off-topic, but I'm glad bullies are calling still girls lesbians, not accusing them of being pooners. Never change, school bullies.

I'm glad she was a little in awe of you (and no longer afraid); if you keep the lines of communication open, you can be a ~good influence.~

If you're face to face again, or on a voice call, maybe it would help to start making fun of pooners a little bit. Not jumping straight to sending her deranged memes, but just touching on the philosophy and its fallacies; if you don't like being bullied for being a woman, you must be a man! It sounds like she has a great backbone, for everything she's been through. Inoculate her against the arguments she's going to see.

Touching on what @Fapcop said; LGBT spaces aimed at children are the concern. At best they're going to be run by well-meaning adults who got a pamphlet explaining to them that as of last update, gendervoid is a cromulent option. I don't know exactly where the angry young anti-trans lesbians hang out online (other than their own part of Tumblr) but at the same time, you don't want to jump into "DON'T BE TRANS" as your first concern with her, and you don't want her necessarily in a community that's anti-trans, when she's just a regular young human possible-lesbian who needs to do her homework.

 

[Fapcop]

Touching on what @Fapcop said; LGBT spaces aimed at children are the concern.

I think you’re being overtly optimistic here.

Pretty sure all of them have been colonized by now. Not just the ones aimed at kids.

If the organizer isn’t a tranny, then you can bet that their materials are full of gender stuff. And quite a few of the kids showing up will likely be trendaqueers and “not like the other girls”-pooners who might spread their crazy.

 

[Idiot Nigger]

People like being successfully able to help.

He feels bad because his identity revolves around suffering, so he's not going to come up with ways to break the pattern on his own; the community is based around preventing people from escaping.

I'd think that anything getting him out of the house would help, but he's not going to want to go somewhere and hang out with a bunch of people, first step. Maybe a movie, the kind with zaps or explosions that's better in a theater; nobody pays attention to you in a theater, but you're still among people.

Snipped the quote to keep it succinct. That's a pretty good idea, maybe I can have him watch and help with some console mods or something like that. The theatre idea is a good one too, general exposure to the public without too much pressure.

Like what? Redbar? lol

I don't know what channels he's into specifically but his favorite cow is KingCobraJFS lol. I tried to watch Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History with him but I think the troonery makes him uncomfortable. Too much self-reflection? (There's gotta be some better content like this we can watch together as a bonding thing, surely. Any ideas?)

I really wish we could go back to the pre-whenever in the last 2 decades world, where you could, save for extreme cases, go down to your neighbour for a BBQ and still enjoy your time with them even though they think gay people are OK and you wouldn't want a single gay person anywhere near a 10km radius from you.

Me too. Everywhere in the public sphere nowadays it feels like you've gotta walk on eggshells.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I think you’re being overtly optimistic here.

Probably, but I think I also didn't articulate myself well enough. I meant that it'd be nice if the cousin hung out in person with some other proto-lesbians her age, especially if they are also weirdos, but anything called Teenage Queer Club run by "helpful" adults is a big no.

Anything like that online, where teenage lesbians have always been men, is an even bigger no, but I do know that TERF Tumblr posts some bangers and that's another loose association kind of thing; no membership card.

 

[Dr. Matthew C. Harris]

I wish I can post them without PLing because they look insane, and its fucked up how the one dude (the creator I mentioned) possibly was groomed by a much, much bigger creator back when he was a minor and might be par of the reasons he trooned out, as that same creator had a troon bf.

This is my most hated feature of the troon ecosystem. It all leads back to some psychopath and/or narcissist who just wanted to jack off, and then it affects hapless people without any fatal character flaws, just "regular" mental illness. Sometimes this comes in tiers. Just look at Finnster. Finnster is a complete ass with very kid-friendly streaming habits such as talking about specific brands of chastity belts live on air, and is connected to vile human beings like Ella Hollywood. Worthy of the great woodchipper, that's for sure. But even that asshole started out being paid for play by some likely straight psychopathic, Epstein-like creepy, gay old fuck who's flush with money.

All of these people are in the early 20s, not yet over the age of 25. NONE of them were feminine in any way beforehand except maybe my "ex", but he was really just a dude with long hair and probably has autism. Beforehand, they were getting into femboy porn before trooning out a couple months later.

Pipeline, 100% pipeline. That's what I'm talking about. They had no defences vs this shit, and that + the influence of some faggot groomer it led to them circling the drain rather than figuring themselves out after the hormones and immaturity that led to them experimenting with sexuality start to give. Society and psychopaths directly hotwired fetish to identity, so when you get addicted to your fetish your brain is so fucked up that it interprets it as you being more authentic.

Too much pampering from parents is setting up your child to never grow up and resent you the moment you force them to be independant.

Troons dont act like adults, or maybe Gen Z just doesnt act their age at all. They act like theyre still 16. They never matured. They never grown.

Facts. What I'm reading from all of this is that they had both mental and parental problems. As in, they were never even encouraged by their environment to grow out of their little bubble, they were never taught to not fear discomfort, and as a result they're trapped in an environment that keeps reinforcing their worst degenerate behaviours. Ie. they already had issues that make it difficult for them to be self-aware and touch grass, like autism, but this specific combo just did them in completely. You see that in other trust fund chapters of subcultures like stoners, skaters, goths, lolita fashion, whatever have you - and now a lot of those are trannies too because neoliberal society killed God.

All in all, very sad. Would I crucify you for having a gaff every now and then? For thinking they talked a lot of shit and got hit? No, that's pretty normal. It's a sign of a strong and wise character that you do not relish in their downfall. I don't like it when, uh, more petty people dance atop the graves that disordered people dug for themselves, but at the same time... they did dig them, didn't they?

Her new school is much better, she likes her class and the class teacher. But I'm kinda worried about her still. She had difficult experiences, her self esteem is low, she seems to be lonely and is a bit weird. Her parents are loving but demanding, she feels she's worse than her incredibly intelligent brother who is studying medicine, and she has had low grades. She also dresses in a masculine way, for one formal event she wore a suit, I've seen her in a skirt maybe once. Her clothes are very oversized. Her character is more of a tomboy. I don't mean that she has to wear high heels and have her hair done for math class, but a vulnerable, kind of depressed young girl could be receptive for a trans narrative. Our huge family is very traditional and religious (but loving), while she is either bisexual or lesbian. There are not many trans people here, I haven't seen one irl ever, there are LGB but they're everywhere. They are online though, she uses social media. We know how algorithms work. She could come across crazy things, like "if you don't like dresses, dislike your periods and have masculine hobbies you are a boy actually".

Jesus Christ, what a story . PL: I was that weird kid. I hope I can offer anything resembling some personal experience wisdom regarding that:

A lot of her behaviours, likes, dislikes may be influenced by depression, trauma, autism, any number of things that make it very hard for her to relate to other people, and might do a number on her head, especially if she's socially isolated. It's a great thing that she has a loving family, that will help a lot - I can't emphasise that enough.

I fully understand where the concern comes from. She's had a rough life. Being young in this situation is a double-edged sword, she can be greatly helped by you and good friends, or greatly fucked with by the factors that Fapcop mentioned. Talking things out consistently, being there for her, unobtrusively trying to introduce good friends into her life would help. Especially if those friends are healthy, but still a bit nerdy so she can relate to them and feel like she BELONGS. At least that's what I wanted and needed as a teenager. I got it for a little while; but by then I was already too anxiously insulated by all the bullshit to reach out to people more, we all graduated, and they moved on, moved away sooner or later.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

This thread really showcases a LOT of the issues I have with this entire thing, and if condensed well by somebody with a functioning brain (which I sadly lack) could really help portray "our" point of view in a civilised manner.

"If the trans community is all about love and finding yourself, why do you exile anyone who figures out that being a troon isn't what they want to be? Is that not the pursuit of their real self?".

I've been around porn-based community spaces for quite a while, mostly against my will cause everything is fucking pornified these days, and not even serial gooners base their personalities this much on their attraction spectrum. You ask a troon to introduce themselves and you'll get play-pretend name, gender, pronouns, labels, sexualities and attractions before hearing "and I like knitting". But you also won't hear that cause trans people have no hobbies. Being trans is their job and hobby. It's exhausting to be around these people and I've personally seen one go from "I wanna be a woman sucking on men" to "I'm a failed faggot and wanna get beaten on" over a few years. They've now somewhat reverted to "just" being terminally online and posting porn all day, but even that is a breath of fresh air compared to 'everything needs to be pink and blue or i'm kmsing'.

I've been around them for too long to really gauge their qualities but generally being immature was always part of it. They were never sexually abused but always wanted to fit in despite lack of social skills, and yet somehow always ending up in the inner circles. I'd show up and shoot some shit, get attention and they'd flip out and go mute for a week out of angry envy. "You're literally fine, just talk like a fucking normal person instead of this 'oh? haha' 'hi how are you' shit". Likewise they'd ping-pong between complete goonerism (and being any fun) and complete abstinence and asexuality, often "wiping it off" in someone else and removing/blocking them as if they were their enabler, before doing it all again.

They were on HRT and tried dressing somewhat queer, but they were part of that gothy beanie generation so they always looked kinda questionably female. Either way, not a person I'd even entertain if I met them anew today cause they're so absurdly childish, which I guess is the driving force behind troonydom. An easy one-off quick fix.. which now that I think about it, they often did. 2-3 days of intense toxic positivity followed by failure to keep up and 2 months of depression. I genuinely do not think of them as straight-up male but likewise not female either. Probably the closest I've come to writing she or they about a troon, but they recently blew up once again and I've tired of entertaining them, even if out of boredom.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Acquaintance on social media (who I only still follow because she was occasionally entertaining as a cow) posted recently about she is afraid her "sparkly queer child" (literally those exact words) will not be safe in Trump's America if he gets re-elected.

I go to her profile to investigate, because I remembered her kid as being like seven. Turns out I overestimated. Kid is literally five years old. And "queer," apparently.

I should probably unfollow even though she is a good cow, it's bad for my blood pressure.

 

[Three Gorillion Dollars]

Two more people in my online circles have come out as trans. Both of them were fairly autistic, nerdy guys but neither of them ever showed any indication of being anything other than "cis." Is there any research about the rate of people 'coming out' as trans and whether it's increasing or static? Because it feels like it's increasing. What's said is that both of these guys are (or were, in one case now) married.

Updating the one who hadn't been divorced... Well, he is now. He's also gotten bottom surgery since that post, has talked about how confused he was following the surgery until he got used to not having a penis anymore (what the fuck) and has gotten into "erotic hypnosis." Also, turns out he found out he was transgender when, during a period of deep depression, a queer Discord buddy played the "Depressed? You're trans!" card. I thought this dude was an annoying dipshit most of the time, but this is a ghastly nightmare for everyone involved.

 

[deermeat]

ts surreal looking back on people you know (one of them being my "ex" back when i was 16) who all trooned out together, even if they were shitty people

I wanna add onto this as I sorta had a major realization with my life in general and I hope I don't PL too hard.

Spoiler: pl

A lot of this emotion I feel is genuine grief. An all too familiar feeling for me, and yet what I realized is that often for most of my life my grief would never translate itself in a direct way.
When I first saw this happen, I felt jealous and my self harming CSA victim aspect of me took over. It was like I wanted to be hurt too, I wanted to be in that community, especially since I struggled with actual "gender dysphoria", and I wanted to be manipulated like they were as for the most part I was always alone in my struggles. A thing that ultimately saved my life but a thing that still hurt nonetheless, especially when taken to account these same people are now claiming to care about marginalized people and talking about caring about things I struggled with, knowing they made fun of me for it. To wanna be hurt and used like that was sorta like wanting validation for all my struggles. Seeing them hang out with all these people, have anyone to talk to, even if it was all toxic and destructive, I envied it somewhat. I wanted to be seen because yaknow, when you actually struggle with issues you are for the most part invisible. To see a bunch of straight men and women from well off backgrounds turn into this filled me with so much rage and jealousy, here they are claiming to be something they're not while being celebrated and receiving all the support I have ever wanted in my life as an actual minority.

Yet I realize that the root of that all isn't the actual desire to be used, to be manipulated, or feeling jealous.
it was grief. And for some reason I never noticed that until now. I LOST these people for good, like Ive talked to them personally in my life and now they are dying. And the only reason why I wanted to be involved at first was because I wanted to live in a delusion too, that way their decay doesn't actually feel like decay and I could live in denial. I could live with myself knowing I didnt cause any harm.

Its exactly like how CSA works. You wanna be used again, not because you actually want it, but because you wanna go back to where you can pretend it wasnt abuse. You want to go back to where you didnt know the reality of the situation.

Like I said theyre shitty people, but I known them. I looked up to one of them. They are GONE. Not one person gone, several. Not even the first person I fucking lost to this either as I lost my childhood best friend to this after she started identifying as trans the moment I started identifying as trans. But unlike me, she never saw through the nonsense and she decayed. She became fat and developed psychosis, dropped out of school and became addicted to the internet. I done that to her, I was the one to introduce the concept to her unintentionally. I unintentionally helped kill her, man.

I dont care about the comunity, I dont care about the attention, I feel like all I cared about was just wanting normalcy in my life, some stability. Theres been so much death in my life, and then theres the death that not many people would even understand. Like having your mom become schizophrenic and shit like this where the people you know lose themselves to addiction that only happened due to social contagion. No one would think of that as death as these people are alive, but it is death. They didn't change in a normal healthy way. They decayed, became a shadow of their former selves.

For most of it, I turned to anger and bitterness. I turned to being resentful, vindicated, and fell down a rabbit hole of constant existential dread where I felt like there had to be a reason ivolved and that there could be something I could do or that there must be some hidden spirttual meaning. But no, its just grief.

Also theres the whole community aspect. Grieving the rapid change in society ontop of everything, grieving what couldve been and whats been lost. Dealing with the burden of knowing things, knowing the bulk of society is ignorant to it.
Its embarassing to open up like this but whatever. I hope theres someone who knows what i mean by all this, I think I come off insane. For me its just a combination between personal irl issues involving grief and instability and then dealing with this. It made me feel disconnected from the world for months on end until recently. It was just unexpected when I first found out. It made me question literally everything for awhile and overall made everything feel hopeless, but I feel better now at least. This month has been the month where I finally started crawling out of that pit of despiar.

 

[Wallace]

For anyone looking for resources on kids and resistance, here's a new website.

 

[Kiislova]

For anyone looking for resources on kids and resistance, here's a new website.

Woah woah! Some of the cases in the bottom are CREEPY. Putting the start of troondom age in [brackets]

• [11] Nicole (mother of desisted daughter, trans-identified for 6 years, desisted at 17, Vienna, Austria)
• [13] Diana (mother of desisted daughter, trans-identified for 2 years, desisted at 15, Norfolk, UK)
• [11] Anna (mother of desisted daughter, trans-identified for 2 years, desisted at 13, Ontario, Canada)
• [10] Iris (mother of desisted daughter, trans-identified for 2 years, desisted at 14, Santiago, Chile)
• [10] Oxana (mother of desited daughter, trans-identified for 3 years, desisted at 14, Northern CA, USA)
• [11] Stephanie (mother of desisted daughter, trans-identified for 4 years, desisted at late age 15, Denver, Colorado, USA).
• [11] Nicole (mother of desisted daughter, trans-identified for 6 years, desisted at 17, Vienna, Austria)

Are these for real? It is just poking too well into my biases of tranny groomers and "things that never happen" happening way too often

 

[Fapcop]

Updating the one who hadn't been divorced... Well, he is now. He's also gotten bottom surgery since that post, has talked about how confused he was following the surgery until he got used to not having a penis anymore (what the fuck) and has gotten into "erotic hypnosis." Also, turns out he found out he was transgender when, during a period of deep depression, a queer Discord buddy played the "Depressed? You're trans!" card. I thought this dude was an annoying dipshit most of the time, but this is a ghastly nightmare for everyone involved.

About “erotic hypnosis”, I’ve heard similar stories from other trannies.

Their dick doesn’t work anymore or they have a stinkditch, so they’ll literally sit and watch porn for hours until they have a “mental orgasm” whatever that means.

Grim.

 

[Mandy Stroyer]

Ex best friend of nearly 10 years (I cut her off forever ago) leaned too hard into her NLOG phase and went full pooner. Previously claimed she was leaving religion only to go back even deeper because now jesus supports her chopping her tits off. Diagnosed with half of cluster B, self diagnosed with autism, and makes taking a low dose of lexapro her muse for her shitty art and music. She was invited to speak at a sexual assault awareness event despite admitting having never been sexually assaulted and making excuses for a convicted pedo we both know. She confided in me about being bisexual as a preteen, which her molly mormon mom found out via spying on her texts and put her in conversion therapy. My mom thinks this has nothing to do with her now believing she's a man and that she needs my support because this time is confusing for her as a hyper religious, histrionic retard who got annoyed when I told her her religion was a pedophile-run ponzi scheme. Her obsession with gay men and religious circle-jerking aside, I think there's no helping and won't even attempt to peak her for the lulz. Supposedly the rest of her momo friends and family cut her off for this. She can poon in the mess she made by herself.

 

[Barry Williams]

Lost a childhood friend to the TQ+ cult. It's like she (TIF) has passed away, that's the only way I can rationalize it to myself. We were inseparable throughout middle and high school. Purely platonic, we didn't date but we might as well have. She was my prom date my senior year. Then she just went off the deep end. Started a relationship with a really great guy whom she treated like shit and leading him on since he was admittedly kind of a nice guy. She came out as trans and that was the straw that broke the camel's back and the relationship dissolved. She bounced from place to place before getting into this efficiency apartment that her parents, who she is estranged from, are paying for. No job, back "in" school for the third time, just freeloading. Literally bragging about being a NEET. Last time we spoke she tried to hit me up for drug money via Venmo and I just had to let her go. I was the last of our childhood friend circle to throw in the towel but I finally just gave up.

It genuinely sucks.

Weird update, but I just saw the person from this post at the grocery store yesterday evening when I was getting off of work. I didn't say anything or whatever, just when I was at the store I saw someone who looked an awful lot like how I remembered this person looking the last time I saw her many years ago. But it made no sense to me because she lived hours away in the aforementioned studio apartment her parents were paying for. Or so I thought. I looked up her Facebook account and judging by the public posts on it she has moved back down to the area and is apparently staying with one of her former teachers from when we were in school??? (The teacher is an older woman, not some pervy guy or whatever. But she has to be absolutely knocking-on-death's-door decrepit at this point because she was old as hell when I was in school and that was 20+ years ago. Like, if you would've asked me today if I thought this person was still alive I'd say no with absolute certainty.)

So yes. I probably did actually see her at the grocery store yesterday and I am definitely not okay with that. I am guessing she finally pissed off her family for good and alienated them once and for all and they just abandoned paying her rent. I couldn't really put together a cohesive timeline because her entire social media presence reads like schizophrenic ramblings but there were mentions of a restraining order, but I don't actually know which side of this conflict filed for one. (I am assuming her parents filed for the RO because this person is extremely obsessive and potentially violent, as trannies are wont to do of course.) I have no idea how she shacked up with a school teacher. I just really hope our paths never, ever cross again. Fucking hell.

 

[Lock Jaw]

ok so i just started this new job landscaping, right. I look like a butch lesbian, i.e. i look trans. I detransitioned after 3 years identifying as NB and 3 months on testosterone. That was when I was 20; I am 23 now. All that bullshit is in my past getting buried under more worthwhile bullshit.

So at my new job there is this short guy. He is ridiculously nice. He doesn't talk like men do, even though he dresses like one. His shoes are clearly a size too big. Otherwise we pretty much dress the same. And his hands are the size of my hands: tiny. But I didn't want to assume anything because short guys exist.

The fourth day of work he pulls me aside by myself, asks my pronouns, says he's trans, been stealth for 10 years, and that NOBODY KNOWS. except, now me. He read me wrong because I'm not trans, I'm just a dyke.

I assured him—her—that I'm cool and I won't tell. But now it's sort of eating me alive. We spend 40 hours a week together. The lie is so enormous, it permeates everything. She was telling our coworkers about how her fiance needs to get her IUD out before they try for a baby. Bitch, you don't even have balls!! The nerve!

i mean if it's hard for me, it's gotta be so hard for her. This woman is one of the kindest, most hardworking people I've ever met. She seems happy.
But she's a liar, in unimaginably deep. She seems happy now. But it feels like a house of cards. a 10 year lie, goddamn the loneliness. she's so afraid of what's real, and she's built her life around a myth that can explode at any moment. all while wrecking her body. that makes me sad.

 

[Strong Tomato]

Our old friends/neighbors that we have known for more than a decade have started to troon out their autistic 6 year old son. Their son is one year older than our daughter and I just cannot imagine that child being able to make such a choice. You can read about this shit online all the time but it really hits different when it happens to people you know in real life.. especially a small child. It just pisses me off any time I think about it.

 

[AI generated waifu]

Our old friends/neighbors that we have known for more than a decade have started to troon out their autistic 6 year old son. Their son is one year older than our daughter and I just cannot imagine that child being able to make such a choice. You can read about this shit online all the time but it really hits different when it happens to people you know in real life.. especially a small child. It just pisses me off any time I think about it.

Christ, I hope this movement's reputation dies before he hits puberty

 

[Cronchyapple]

I am so heartbroken over a roommate which is a woman claiming to be non-binary and trying to get “gender affirming” surgery aka getting her tits chopped off. She told me how badly she wants it and it makes me so depressed. She reinforces these ideas that female bodies are inherently sexual and does not do the rebellious thing and embrace the female body as a non-sexual object. I get depressed every time I talk to her and she brings up gender as she is a white middle class woman trying to get oppression points when I’m more oppressed than she is (I won’t identify myself due to opsec but think of the entire bucket of minorities in one person) and it’s genuinely cringy. I try to date other women and every butch woman I’ve met irl or online has now defined themselves as non-binary or “trans masc”. I can’t keep bringing myself to attend “lesbian/sapphic/wlw” bar events and seeing these creatures mingle. These drugs ruined the gay community like crack for the black community in the 1980’s. Apologies for the vent if this is too much.

An update to my situation… My roommate last night off handedly said she is trans and that her boyfriend is queer for dating her. She has no clue I this oppositely to her in every way imaginable and it peeves me. Everyone in my city thinks like her and it makes dating a hellish ordeal. She wears dresses and short skirts, has feminine stupid flower tattoos and thinks she is trans and a real dood. It drives me nuts.